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Well, with Target and KMart having Lego sales, it was a good weekend to go
shopping. The bad part is that I am laid up with bad bronchitis, and so I had
to plan the fastest most efficient trip to visit these stores, where I coughed
my way around them in a state of near collapse, scattering the passers-by who
probably thought I had the plague from the sound of me. Still it kept the
aisles and checkouts clear as small children were pulled away from me by their
terrified parents who waved garlic and made the sign of the cross etc :-)
However, despite the recovery time required afterwards (flat on back gasping
for breath!), it was a good shopping expedition.
KMart Indooroopilly: All the new Harry Potter Lego was theoretically available
in KMart at various discounted prices, but the Chamber of Secrets had sold out
on Saturday and I did not spot the Aragog set either on shelf. There were no
UCS X-Wings on the shelf (at $119) but I asked/wheezed and the staff found two
more "out back" so it's worth asking/wheezing (no Chamber of Secrets out back
though -- they went like hot cakes and lots of people were asking about them
since, said the staff member). KMart Indooroopilly also had the Hogwarts Castle
at $119 (low enough for you, Richie?) and the King Leo's Castle for $99 (at
which point it has just became an acceptable price for what you get, IMHO).
There were also discounts on some of the Star Wars and other themes, but
nothing spectacular (i.e. no different to their other recent toy sales). The
Blue Tubs were down at $40 again, as with all KMart sales. If only those tubs
had colours like grey and tan and so forth.
Target Indooroopilly: Theoretically all the new Harry Potter was here, but
frankly many sets were missing to the extent that I could not find the pricetag
on the shelf. However, they did have the Chamber of Secrets (2 copies on my
arrival, 1 on my departure!). Target also had the 3 "girlie" HP sets (as Richie
likes to call them) at $14.99, so I stocked up on them for Christmas presents
for kids. Target also had the Spiderman sets and the werewolf and vampire
studio sets slightly reduced. Thanks to Richie's reviews on the vampire and
werewolf sets, I got one of the vampire sets.
So, for those who want prices, here's what I recorded ... compared with S@H
price (where available)
7191 UCS X-Wing $119 KMart (normally $200+)
4709 Hogwarts Castle $119 KMart, $159.95 S@H
6098 King Leo's Castle $99 KMart, $195 S@H
1381 Vampire's Crypt, $34.99 Target, $36.40 S@H
4721/4722/4723 Hogwarts Classroom/Gryffindor House/Diagnon Alley, $14.99
Target, $20.95 S@H
new Harry Potter:
4726 Quidditch Practice, $22.95 Kmart, $24.95 S@H
4727 Aragog in the Dark Forest, $34.99 Target, $39.95 S@H
4728 Escape from Privet Drive, $54.95 KMart, $61.25 S@H
4729 Dumbledore's Office, $74.96 KMart, $99.95 S@H
4730 Chamber of Secrets $119 KMart, $119.99 Target, $139.95 S@H
4731 Dobby's Release $11.95 KMart, $13.95 S@H
4733 Duelling Club, $34.95 KMart, $39.95 S@H
4735 Slytherin $21.95 KMart, $20.99 S@H **
[Aside. Looking at the numbers above, it makes me wonder what 4732 and 4734
will be. At that Lego show in the Netherlands last week, there were some large
sculptures of Harry Potter and the Snake in the Chamber of Secrets. I wonder if
they were just for display or whether we will be getting some large HP
sculptures?]
Note there were more discounted items than these at both stores but my brain
power to remember it all ran out. Also the prices of sets at KMart and Target
were not generally identical but varied only by a marginal amount.
As you can see, the best deals appear to the more expensive sets, as the
discounts on the small sets (relative to S@H) is quite small even as a
percentage. Indeed, in the case of Slytherin (**), the S@H price is actually
cheaper than the so-called discount price at KMart. Of course, S@H shipping
will cost you more than the bus fare or petrol to your local Target/KMart (for
most of us). Also, if you are a Coles Myer shareholder, your
ultimately-doomed-but-still-worth-something-now shareholder discount cards will
get you an additional 5% off the price at both Target and KMart so that makes
the prices even sweeter.
Given that for most of this year, I found little to tempt me in either KMart or
Target, it was a nice change to be overwhelmed with choice and my budget rather
than my enthusiasm being the constraint on my purchasing. As a result of
today's shopping expedition, I have done my Christmas shopping for 8 of the now
11 children I have to buy for, and of course a few things for Kiddus Maximus
(as my husband calls me).
Shop hard, play well!
Kerry
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Having acquired and built the new Harry Potter sets, here's a brief review of
them. For each one, I give the prices I paid about a week ago through local
retailers with the S@H price shown for comparison. The price per piece (based
on S@H prices) is also shown. All prices in Australian dollars (divide by 2 to
get approx USD/Euro prices).
Overall I was less impressed with the new HP sets compared with the sets from
the first book. I thought Hogwarts Castle, Hogwarts Express, Hagrids Hut and
Snape's Classroom were the pick of the first release, along with Diagnon Alley
and Hogwarts Classroom in the 2nd release. I found less to be exciting about in
these new sets. Now maybe this is because HP Lego isn't the new new thing it
was originally, but generally I think the design is not as good and the colours
are also a lot darker (a lot more light and dark grey and less tan and other
colours overall by comparison with the earlier sets).
Ok, a brief comment on each of them:
> 4726 Quidditch Practice, $22.95 Kmart, $24.95 S@H
Quiddich Practice: 128 for $24.95, or 19.5 cents per piece
One of the cheaper sets and one of the more colourful ones (green, red, tan and
light grey). However, the design and parts selection is nothing to get excited
by. The main attractions of this set are the Madam Hooch minifig (the Quidditch
mistress with attitude), the Quidditch hoop piece (if you can think of another
use for it) and the red and green coloured minifig capes worn by Harry and
Draco (for Gryffindor and Slytherin house respectively). It's better than
Flying Lesson (but more expensive).
> 4727 Aragog in the Dark Forest, $34.99 Target, $39.95 S@H
Aragog in the Dark Forest: 178 for $39.95, or 22.4 cents per piece
This is probably my least favourite of them all. It doesn't seem well-designed
and looks dark and murky (ok, I realise it's the dark forest). Minifigs: Harry
and Ron, just in case you managed to miss out on them in the previous sets. The
best parts of the set are the spider legs, some brown slopes and some foliage,
which might be useful if you want to build a MOC of say a giant spider in a
forest. Otherwise ...
> 4728 Escape from Privet Drive, $54.95 KMart, $61.25 S@H
Escape from Privet Drive: 278 for $61.25, or 22.0c per piece
This is the Hogwarts Express of the new series, that is, the set that isn't
intended to be part of the overall Hogwarts Castle layout. I like this set a
lot, as it is quite well-designed and the colours are interesting. The exterior
of the house is relatively enclosed (by Lego standards) and it comes with a
number of those nice burnt orange bricks with lattice windows. The car is in an
attractive light blue colour, and can pull away a window of the house to let
Harry escape, so there's play value. Of course, with the use of rarer colours
like this, there is always the problem that you never acquire enough parts in
enough shapes in any of these colours to be genuinely useful for MOCs. So, your
enthusiasm for this set may be affected by your feelings about rare colours.
Minifigs: oh rapture another Harry and another Ron, and a new one Uncle Vernon,
a sort of brown middle-aged fig who looks cranky rather than nasty.
> 4729 Dumbledore's Office, $74.96 KMart, $99.95 S@H
Dumbledore's Office: 446 for $99.95, or 22.4 cents per piece
Of the sets that are intended to be part of the overall Hogwarts Castle layout,
this is the best IMHO. It's a single structure over 3 levels (unlike the
Chamber of Secrets or Hogwarts Castle, which contain a number of separate
structures). It's somewhat enclosed and it hinges open to reveal the interior
on two different levels. It has more of the lighter colours (tan, sand green,
light grey) than the darker ones (dark grey, black). It has a number of items
for "play" including the spinning wheel (a hypnotic device, not for working
with wool). There are a number of good parts in this set including round walls
and the ever-popular tan quarter-turn spindle fences (4 of them!). You get a
Dumbledore (which everyone seems to like for the beard and the purple robes and
cape), a new pre-dominantly green Prof McGonagle (hurray for more female
minifigs), and the inevitable Harry (what shall we do with them all?). You also
get yet another of the ghastly spiral staircases which will never stay in the
arrangement you put them in and don't have studs so you can't stand a minifig
on them (does anyone actually like these stairs?). One drawback is that there
is very little space floor area when the set is closed so it is hard to find
places to position the minifigs for display in the closed configuration.
> 4730 Chamber of Secrets $119 KMart, $119.99 Target, $139.95 S@H
Chamber of Secrets: 591 for $139.95, or 23.7 cents per piece
Yuk yuk yuk. If you have the money, either put some back in your pocket and buy
Dumbledore's Office or spend a bit extra and buy the earlier Hogwarts Castle.
This is the most expensive set of the new releases, and one of the least
satisfactory in my opinion, poor design and mostly darker colours. The set
comes in 4 main parts with 3 tower/turret bits that you can put on the tops on
2 of the 4 main parts (pity that there is space for 4 tower/turrets!). Maybe if
I re-read the book, this piecemeal design might make more sense to me. One of
the 4 main parts has hinged elements coming out of the side which suggest it is
intended to be connected to some of the other parts, but I could not figure out
how. Indeed, this is my biggest criticism of the entire HP theme is the way so
many sets are designed as if other sets are supposed to be interconnected, but
there is no grand plan for how they are to be interconnected into one large
building. Oh, and you get a large green snake which doesn't really fit in the
set when built and falls over sidewise when freestanding. Still, you can use it
to keep Aragog the Spider and Fluffy the 3-headed Dog from getting lonely in
the back of the cupboard. On the positive side, if you plan to build MOCs that
require a number of large wall pieces with open snake mouths and large green
snakes, this may be the set for you. Seriously, the only redeeming features of
this set are the door opening mechanism in one of the main structures, the
bearded face opening wall (somewhat reminiscent of the those skull/face walls
in the Islander sets), and what I assume is a phoenix (but shouldn't it be in
Dumbledore's office?).
> 4731 Dobby's Release $11.95 KMart, $13.95 S@H
Dobby's Release: 70 for $13.95, or 19.9 cents per piece
The cheapest of the new sets, but quite a worthwhile purchase. Only a small
set, but a nice selection of parts in a nice design with a couple of play
elements. I think this set will be popular for the 2 grey arched lattice
windows and the two new minifigs, Dobby (with the shorter legs -- nice for
making minifig children, and a head that could be used for space aliens) and
his not nice master (I forget his name) with a long blond hair piece and a grey
business suit (all very reusable). And best of all, no Harry!
> 4733 Duelling Club, $34.95 KMart, $39.95 S@H
The Duelling Club: 129 for $39.95, or 31 cents per piece
I like the look of this set but not the price per part! However, it has some
premium parts that have a lot of appeal to me: two tan pillars, 2 tan lions
heads, 2 yellow banners (not pre-printed but with stickers). There are 4
minifigs, 3 of which we have seen before (Snape, Draco and yet another Harry)
but there is also a new one, the celebrity wizard (I forget his name) in green
with blond coiffured hair and bright white teeth smile. Take off his cape, and
you have a TV evangelist, a politician, a real estate salesman, TV anchor
person etc. The play element is the ability to turn the knob and knock Harry or
Draco off their feet while spell duelling. Of course as they are standing on
tiles, you will be lucky to get them to stand up long enough to knock them off.
For display purposes, stand them on the studs behind the tiles, and you won't
have to put them back on again each time a slight breeze blows.
> 4735 Slytherin $21.95 KMart, $20.99 S@H
Slytherin: 90 for $20.99, or 23.3 cents per piece
Another of the cheaper sets, somewhat similar in style to the Hogwarts Express
station or the Troll on the Loose bathroom. Average parts selection, average
design. There are 3 minifigs: Draco (who is becoming as common as Harry in this
new set of HP sets) and his two Slytherin cohorts Crabbe and WhatsHisName (with
reversible heads so they can transform into Harry and Ron -- read the book if
you need to understand why). I'm not sure which is which of the two cohorts,
but I like the black hair-with-attitude of one of them, the other is fairly
ordinary (apart from the reversible head). So you don't exactly get a Harry and
Ron in this set but you get their faces, but you can keep them hidden.
Overall, I like the fact that the towers on the new sets are the taller
pointier varieties and not those square squat ones used in many of the first
sets. Also there are no cardboard roof elements, which were perhaps excusable
in Hagrids Hut due to its unique opening shape, but unforgivable in Hogwarts
Castle where a few slope bricks or a hinged plate could have done a much much
better job. But overall I think the first series was better in terms of design
and colour; there is nothing in the new set to match the stylishness of
Hogwarts Castle dining hall. It's good to see a number of new minifigs,
including the two women, but Harry, Ron and Draco are definitely in serious
oversupply now.
Summary of the new sets:
Best: Dumbledore's office, Escape from Privet Drive, Dobby's Release
Middling: Duelling Club, Slytherin, Quidditch Practice
Worst: Aragog in the Dark Forest, Chamber of Secrets
Summary of the new figs:
Best: Madam Hooch, Prof McGonagle, celebrity wizard, Dobby, Slytherin cohort
with attitude hair
Middling: Dobby's not nice master, Uncle Vernon
Dull: the other Slytherin cohort
Summary of the new creatures:
Best: <none>
Middling: Aragog, phoenix
Worst: Green snake
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Kerry Raymond wrote in message ...
> > 4726 Quidditch Practice, $22.95 Kmart, $24.95 S@H
> Quiddich Practice: 128 for $24.95, or 19.5 cents per piece
>
> One of the cheaper sets and one of the more colourful ones (green, red, tan • and
> light grey). However, the design and parts selection is nothing to get • excited
> by.
I disagree, there are some *very* nice parts in this set. Light grey 2x2
roof peaks (previously extremely hard to get), tan 2x2 roof peaks (not
available before AFAIK), green 2x2 roof corners (ditto), and several
always-useful pieces in light grey - brick hinges, 2x2 tiles, a minifig
seat, and 2x2 round bricks. Not to mention all the light grey and green 1x2
standard bricks.
Kevin
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kevin Wilson writes:
> Kerry Raymond wrote in message ...
>
> > > 4726 Quidditch Practice, $22.95 Kmart, $24.95 S@H
> > Quiddich Practice: 128 for $24.95, or 19.5 cents per piece
> I disagree, there are some *very* nice parts in this set. Light grey 2x2
> roof peaks (previously extremely hard to get), tan 2x2 roof peaks (not
> available before AFAIK), green 2x2 roof corners (ditto), and several
> always-useful pieces in light grey - brick hinges, 2x2 tiles, a minifig
> seat, and 2x2 round bricks. Not to mention all the light grey and green 1x2
> standard bricks.
How many green corners? I saw only one in the picture. There used to be a
cardinal Lego design rule that you get an even number of pieces like this,
or matched sets like in car doors.
It was that grey roof peak issue that triggered my landslide selling off of
Lego. Last night I discovered I own a 2x2 inside a Gungan Sub.
Anyway it looks like only one tan and one grey in Quidditch. They remain
rare but fundamental parts of the system.
-Erik
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:
> Having acquired and built the new Harry Potter sets, here's a brief review of
> them.
> snip detailed well thought out critical review<
> and the inevitable Harry (what shall we do with them all?).
Our solution for all our extra Harry/Ron/Hermione heads/hairpieces is to
pull and store them and replace them with other faces/hairpieces so we've
been able to build up our Gryffindor house ranks creating Fred, George,
Percy, Seamus, etc. I may eventually try to print some tiny Hufflepuff and
Ravenclaw house patch stickers to apply over our surplus Gryffindor
minifigs... Our current Great Hall is 24x40 studs with tables for all four
houses with a dream of one 3x that in size. We have also double-sized our
Snape's Classroom and the girl's restroom from Troll on the Loose. To my
5-year old son (primary owner of our HP sets) playability is what it's all
about. At roughly $550 USD to obtain 1 copy each of all the HP sets it'll be
another year's worth of birthdays/Christmas, etc before my kids receive
everything unless we completely spoil them--wait, too late! about $100 in HP
parts spent last month on Bricklink ;)
Play well!
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Bill
(TooMuchDew)
p.s. I don't work this year on Halloween so I am going to be escorting the
kids Trick-or-Treating dressed as Hagrid (just who is the big kid here?)
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:
<snip>
> ... the Madam Hooch minifig (the Quidditch mistress with attitude)...
Like the ghost in Snape's Classroom, and the flute in the Forbidden
Corridor, it seems another case of basing the sets from the book (or perhaps
an early draft of the script) rather than the movie. Reports are that Madame
Hooch (Zoë Wanamaker) doesn't appear in the final cut.
<snip>
> You get a Dumbledore (which everyone seems to like for the beard and
> the purple robes and cape), a new pre-dominantly green Prof McGonagle
> (hurray for more female minifigs),
I find that Dumbledore's head and his long hair make a very presentable
older woman fig. His robes though, make me think of an old person's dressing
gown more than a wizard.
<snip>
> You also
> get yet another of the ghastly spiral staircases which will never stay in the
> arrangement you put them in and don't have studs so you can't stand a minifig
> on them (does anyone actually like these stairs?).
At the risk of being flamed, yes, a bit. They can be locked in place (Though
they aren't in the official sets) and I was quite pleased with their effect
in my Orthanc Courtyard (see
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/rdulin/orthanc/orthanc2.jpg).
I have yet to come up with any plausible non-stair application for them,
however (although I notice that the shafts that join the stairs together are
used as machine guns on the Red Baron 'plane).
<snip>
> if you plan to build MOCs that require a number of large wall
> pieces with open snake mouths and large green snakes, this may
> be the set for you.
I presume, though, that the snake mouths are printed on one side only,
making them somewhat useful...
<snip>
> and what I assume is a phoenix (but shouldn't it be in
> Dumbledore's office?).
Beware, spoiler follows:
Yes, but IIRC it also made an appearance in the Chamber of Secrets
delivering something to Harry.
<snip>
> but there is also a new one, the celebrity wizard (I forget his name) in green
> with blond coiffured hair and bright white teeth smile.
Gilderoy Lockhart (Kenneth Brannagh)
<snip>
> Another of the cheaper sets, somewhat similar in style to the Hogwarts Express
> station or the Troll on the Loose bathroom. Average parts selection, average
> design. There are 3 minifigs: Draco (who is becoming as common as Harry in this
> new set of HP sets) and his two Slytherin cohorts Crabbe and WhatsHisName
Goyle.
Cheers
Richie
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:
> Summary of the new sets:
>
> Best: Dumbledore's office, Escape from Privet Drive, Dobby's Release
> Middling: Duelling Club, Slytherin, Quidditch Practice
> Worst: Aragog in the Dark Forest, Chamber of Secrets
I'm in complete agreement here.
> Summary of the new figs:
>
> Best: Madam Hooch, Prof McGonagle, celebrity wizard, Dobby, Slytherin cohort
> with attitude hair
> Middling: Dobby's not nice master, Uncle Vernon
> Dull: the other Slytherin cohort
Here I disagree. Dobby's master (Lucius Malfoy) is a great fig. That torso
would be great in any Town setting. Blond hair is stil rare enough to be
exciting. And the face is interesting. Almost the same things can be said
about Uncle Vernon. I'm always happy with new figs that seem to have a more
general utility. Hooch, OTOH, is less useful. I don't see her as being
generic enough to use outside of HP creations. Also on figs, I like the new
torsos on Ron and Harry in the Aragog set. Again, these are generic useful
Town torsos. Unfortunately, they don't make it worth buying that set--I'm
in strong agreement on the spider model. I even need to make a giant spider
for my Tolkien project, but I won't get this set. I'd rather build my own
design.
Bruce
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In lugnet.loc.au, Bruce Hietbrink writes:
snip
> Here I disagree. Dobby's master (Lucius Malfoy) is a great fig. That torso
> would be great in any Town setting. Blond hair is stil rare enough to be
> exciting. And the face is interesting. Almost the same things can be said
> about Uncle Vernon. I'm always happy with new figs that seem to have a more
> general utility. Hooch, OTOH, is less useful. I don't see her as being
> generic enough to use outside of HP creations. Also on figs, I like the new
> torsos on Ron and Harry in the Aragog set. Again, these are generic useful
> Town torsos. Unfortunately, they don't make it worth buying that set--I'm
> in strong agreement on the spider model. I even need to make a giant spider
> for my Tolkien project, but I won't get this set. I'd rather build my own
> design.
>
> Bruce
I thought that Sheelob was the only use for it too, I would believe that
lego even had that in mind, that is at least, they might have if they werent
preoccupied with Harry Potter (though one could easily argue the Tolkein
influence on Rowling and conclude that it IS a Sheelob set - the only
difference is that the minifigs should have had short legs and swords, and a
Gollum)
do you have any pics of your Tolkein project, i am sure i am not the only
one who would be interested in that...
Seeya
Robert (click, click)
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This set also has the 1x1 round plate in gold, definitely new and very cool!
Dave
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In lugnet.loc.au, David Simmons writes:
> This set also has the 1x1 round plate in gold, definitely new and very cool!
Does this set follow the standard practice of including an extra 1x1 round
of each colour 1x1 used? (Or did they adjust their sorting machine for this
instance?)
Cheers
Richie
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In lugnet.loc.au, Richie Dulin writes:
> In lugnet.loc.au, David Simmons writes:
> > This set also has the 1x1 round plate in gold, definitely new and very cool!
>
> Does this set follow the standard practice of including an extra 1x1 round
> of each colour 1x1 used? (Or did they adjust their sorting machine for this
> instance?)
Not only does it contain only one golden snitch, but the one it does
contain comes carefully packaged in the "box" the capes come in (I was
beginning to get upset when I opened my set and couldn't find the
snitch anywhere-- I was going to call customer service before I opened
the polybags so I could send them to them in case they thought I was
snitching the snitch, so to speak-- but then I felt a lump in the
cape box. Whew.)
Maggie C.
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"Kerry Raymond" <kerry@dstc.edu.au> wrote:
> > 4730 Chamber of Secrets $119 KMart, $119.99 Target, $139.95 S@H
> Chamber of Secrets: 591 for $139.95, or 23.7 cents per piece
Are you sure about this? I saw one copy of this at the local Wal-Mart
and scanned the barcode - it came up as $69.98
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In lugnet.loc.au, David Long writes:
> "Kerry Raymond" <kerry@dstc.edu.au> wrote:
> > > 4730 Chamber of Secrets $119 KMart, $119.99 Target, $139.95 S@H
> > Chamber of Secrets: 591 for $139.95, or 23.7 cents per piece
>
> Are you sure about this? I saw one copy of this at the local Wal-Mart
> and scanned the barcode - it came up as $69.98
Kerry's prices are in $AUD for Australian stores, I gather that you are in
the US.
Deidre
drb@tasmail.com
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"Deidre Rushton Brumby" <drb@tasmail.com> wrote:
> In lugnet.loc.au, David Long writes:
> > "Kerry Raymond" <kerry@dstc.edu.au> wrote:
> > > > 4730 Chamber of Secrets $119 KMart, $119.99 Target, $139.95 S@H
> > > Chamber of Secrets: 591 for $139.95, or 23.7 cents per piece
> >
> > Are you sure about this? I saw one copy of this at the local Wal-Mart
> > and scanned the barcode - it came up as $69.98
>
> Kerry's prices are in $AUD for Australian stores, I gather that you are in
> the US.
..ack! Brain fart.. Saw the ".edu" in the address and completely
spaced the ".au" after it...
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