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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message
news:Hx8uCD.19rs@lugnet.com...
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> * A certain few parts that are crucial to keep in the old colors will • likely be
> created as service pack type items. An example of this would be the 9v • train
> track. I am interested in getting feedback from you (via this thread) on • which
> elements MUST be produced in the old colors for the long term. (And no, • you
> can't say "the whole range of parts!" :) )
All five of the current 9v track elements should continue to be produced in
the original dark grey color. Just producing straights and/or curves
(although there are probably enough curves floating around) isn't
sufficient.
Additionally, like Thomas Main suggested, I'd like to see BURPs, both
shapes, available in both light gray and dark gray. I'd also like to see
the large grey baseplate remain available in the original color as well
although that one wouldn't be nearly as high on the wish list as train track
and BURPs.
> * We also have received confirmation from colleagues that in the future, • we will
> include both the adult and kid enthusiasts in any testing related to
> modification or change of the core building system. (Please note that • there are
> not any plans whatsoever in the works for making changes)
That is good news.
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> Again, I know the color change upset many of you, and I don't mean to • re-open
> wounds. Thanks for your patience while we worked on getting this put to • bed once
> and for all. As I've said before, out of all bad things comes something
> positive. In this case, the positive is that there are many more people
> internally who understand your passion and interest.
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While I know many in the community hoped the answer would be for TLC to
issue a response such as "you were right, we were wrong, we're switching
back" or something to that effect, I didn't expect it would happen.
While I don't agree with the color change I am willing to accept it an move
on but I would like TLC to make it easier for me to embrace the color
change. Right now I have a few parts in these new colors. I don't have
enough of them to make much use of them so they are no different to me than
some of the oddball Belville colors I have in my collection.
I would like to see TLC issue a bulk tub which contains a good assortment
(not a tub of 1x1s like 4407 is) of bricks, plates, slopes, in the new
colors. I don't know how well these would sell on the shelf at Target,
probably not well at all. If they were augmented with some castle walls,
turets, and some castle figs, they could be marketed as a Castle "Designer
Set". For those of us who are not castle people, we could still get a good
quantity of bricks and plates and probably find "homes" for the other stuff
we didn't want.
So I am asking TLC to help me make lemonade out of what is now a small
basket of lemons. If you want me to embrace the new colors, make them
readily available in a broad palette of elements and I'll get on board. If
I need to part sets out to get them, then it will be years before I have a
suitable supply to build with.
Mike
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Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring.com
http://www.ncltc.cc - North Carolina LEGO Train Club
http://www.carolinatrainbuilders.com - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=mpw - CTB/Brick Depot
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> Additionally, like Thomas Main suggested, I'd like to see BURPs, both
> shapes, available in both light gray and dark gray. I'd also like to see
> the large grey baseplate remain available in the original color as well
> although that one wouldn't be nearly as high on the wish list as train • track
> and BURPs.
Hmm, BURPS. Actually, I think you could almost get away with the rectangular
ones. The triangular ones aren't that useful in bulk. I did use a bunch in
my cliff scene, but only because I wanted to conserve rectangular BURPS. If
I had twice as many rectangular ones, I would not have used any triangular
ones.
Grey baseplates is another good one. Hmm, while we're at it, could we have
the 48x48 baseplate in a few other colors (blue would be way cool).
> While I know many in the community hoped the answer would be for TLC to
> issue a response such as "you were right, we were wrong, we're switching
> back" or something to that effect, I didn't expect it would happen.
Agreed.
> While I don't agree with the color change I am willing to accept it an • move
> on but I would like TLC to make it easier for me to embrace the color
> change. Right now I have a few parts in these new colors. I don't have
> enough of them to make much use of them so they are no different to me • than
> some of the oddball Belville colors I have in my collection.
Agreed.
> I would like to see TLC issue a bulk tub which contains a good assortment
> (not a tub of 1x1s like 4407 is) of bricks, plates, slopes, in the new
> colors. I don't know how well these would sell on the shelf at Target,
> probably not well at all. If they were augmented with some castle walls,
> turets, and some castle figs, they could be marketed as a Castle "Designer
> Set". For those of us who are not castle people, we could still get a • good
> quantity of bricks and plates and probably find "homes" for the other • stuff
> we didn't want.
>
> So I am asking TLC to help me make lemonade out of what is now a small
> basket of lemons. If you want me to embrace the new colors, make them
> readily available in a broad palette of elements and I'll get on board. • If
> I need to part sets out to get them, then it will be years before I have a
> suitable supply to build with.
This is definitely true. If I could buy tubs with a wide variety of parts in
the new colors at 5 cents a brick or less (at least 75% greys and brown, but
hey, if you want to throw in some of the other colors, that would be cool
also), I would buy a bunch of those right off the bat to be able to create
decent constructions in the new colors. Heck, price them right, and I might
acquire more brick in these colors than I have in the old colors.
Frank
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In lugnet.general, Frank Filz wrote:
> Grey baseplates is another good one. Hmm, while we're at it, could
> we have the 48x48 baseplate in a few other colors (blue would be
> way cool).
It is available in blue
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/4509
just not as a service pack.
The 48 x 48 baseplate is the most important choice for a part to have
in gray, and it would be great to see service packs of that baseplate
in gray, blue, and maybe tan, green, and clear.
TWS Garrison
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In lugnet.general, Frank Filz wrote:
> Hmm, BURPS. Actually, I think you could almost get away with the rectangular
> ones. The triangular ones aren't that useful in bulk. I did use a bunch in
> my cliff scene, but only because I wanted to conserve rectangular BURPS. If
> I had twice as many rectangular ones, I would not have used any triangular
> ones.
>
> Grey baseplates is another good one. Hmm, while we're at it, could we have
> the 48x48 baseplate in a few other colors (blue would be way cool). • - SNIP -
> Frank
Yes.. BURPS is a good suggestion. Most of us have enough old grey Lego to
connect these together to make decent size hills. I think the same is true
for the castle walls from another post (Anthony's I believe). To suggest
that these are irrelevant without the corresponding basic bricks seems
unwarranted. We'd all like the bricks in the old colours but there are still
large numbers of us who have the basic bricks and are very worried about a lack
of interesting larger pieces to attach them too. (just my opinion of course)
Also... monorail track... he says ever hopefully.
- Jeff
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In lugnet.general, Frank Filz wrote:
> Grey baseplates is another good one. Hmm, while we're at it, could we have
> the 48x48 baseplate in a few other colors (blue would be way cool).
That's a fine suggestion--I'd love to see (or perhaps love to sea) a modular
ocean base a la the modular space base. I wouldn't even mind a green 48x48,
while we're at it. And was it ever determined if the trans-white was officially
available?
Dave!
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Speaking of baseplates, U agree that 48 x 48 in Trans-clear would be fantastic
(I could easily buy a couple dozen).
But more importantly, can we have some BROWN large baseplates?? The 32 x 32
baseplate in brown was only available in one set (#232), so there aren't that
many of them kicking around.
Please make 48 x 48 baseplates in (any) brown and clear.
Paul Sinasohn
LUGNET #115
BAYLUG / BAYLTC
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Ooops - *** I *** agree. I can't speak for you.
In lugnet.general, Paul Sinasohn wrote:
> Speaking of baseplates, U agree that 48 x 48 in Trans-clear would be fantastic
> (I could easily buy a couple dozen).
Paul Sinasohn
LUGNET #115
BAYLUG / BAYLTC
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In lugnet.general, Frank Filz wrote:
> > I would like to see TLC issue a bulk tub which contains a good assortment
> > (not a tub of 1x1s like 4407 is) of bricks, plates, slopes, in the new
> > colors. I don't know how well these would sell on the shelf at Target,
> > probably not well at all. If they were augmented with some castle walls,
> > turets, and some castle figs, they could be marketed as a Castle "Designer
> > Set". For those of us who are not castle people, we could still get a good
> > quantity of bricks and plates and probably find "homes" for the other stuff
> > we didn't want.
> >
> > So I am asking TLC to help me make lemonade out of what is now a small
> > basket of lemons. If you want me to embrace the new colors, make them
> > readily available in a broad palette of elements and I'll get on board. If
> > I need to part sets out to get them, then it will be years before I have a
> > suitable supply to build with.
>
> This is definitely true. If I could buy tubs with a wide variety of parts in
> the new colors at 5 cents a brick or less (at least 75% greys and brown, but
> hey, if you want to throw in some of the other colors, that would be cool
> also), I would buy a bunch of those right off the bat to be able to create
> decent constructions in the new colors. Heck, price them right, and I might
> acquire more brick in these colors than I have in the old colors.
>
> Frank
I'll add my voice in with Frank and Mike on this one. The bulk tubs in the new
color (as some suggest, maybe even with Castle-specific parts) would be an
excellent way to get the new colors into circulation. Maybe as a S@H exclusive
or something. I'm not a castle builder, but I wouldn't turn down all the nifty
castle pieces if I got them with a bunch of other useful pieces in the same
color themes. Bulk is bulk, and bulk is good.
- Kelly
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In lugnet.general, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
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I’ll add my voice in with Frank and Mike on this one. The bulk tubs in the new
color (as some suggest, maybe even with Castle-specific parts) would be an
excellent way to get the new colors into circulation. Maybe as a S@H exclusive
or something. I’m not a castle builder, but I wouldn’t turn down all the nifty
castle pieces if I got them with a bunch of other useful pieces in the same
color themes. Bulk is bulk, and bulk is good.
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Adding my voice to this, a new bulk castle tub would be fantastic. Bulk as in 3
cents per part, or lower mind you. Also, if adding the cost of the tub made the
set prohibitive, I still think it would sell if packaged otherwise.
Those tubs are great (I use 100+ in my sorting system) but they aren’t the part
we really want. It’s all about the bricks.
Jason Spears | BrickCentral | MichLUG
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In lugnet.general, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
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I’ll add my voice in with Frank and Mike on this one. The bulk tubs in the new
color (as some suggest, maybe even with Castle-specific parts) would be an
excellent way to get the new colors into circulation. Maybe as a S@H exclusive
or something. I’m not a castle builder, but I wouldn’t turn down all the nifty
castle pieces if I got them with a bunch of other useful pieces in the same
color themes. Bulk is bulk, and bulk is good.
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Yes!
The 6 packs that were done for us recently used up 6 SKUs. We’ve been told in
the past that there’s an SKU shortage. Bulk tubs use up a LOT less SKUs than
their equivalent in service packs, ne?
Run off 2 or 3 bulk tubs with a decent assortment (take the average of what
everyone asks for) of parts and the excess to one person (like Kelly’s castle
pieces, etc) will be quickly sold off to the person that needs it desperately...
You could even do a space bulk tub, heavy in greebles and plates, with a mix
that’s predominantly dark/light grey weighted, and a castle bulk tub, weighted a
bit more in the brown direction and the brick direction, and a town tub, or a
landscape tub, or whatever.
Heck I think MichLUG’s own Ken Koleda already gave you
the mockup for what a castle tub might look like!...
That should save your marketing department a few cycles...
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Run off 2 or 3 bulk tubs with a decent assortment (take the average of what
everyone asks for) of parts and the excess to one person (like Kelly’s castle
pieces, etc) will be quickly sold off to the person that needs it
desperately...
You could even do a space bulk tub, heavy in greebles and plates, with a mix
that’s predominantly dark/light grey weighted, and a castle bulk tub,
weighted a bit more in the brown direction and the brick direction, and a
town tub, or a landscape tub, or whatever.
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I can’t help but see the irony in getting something like this. We have wanted
things like this for a while but if we were to get them now it would be to build
up a stock of the new colors. It would definitely help with accepting and being
able to use the new colors, though I still wish they would just go back. If they
are not going to go back altogether or produce items in the old greys then do
this with the new greys please.
-Mike Petrucelli
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