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Re: No more steel in jolly old England
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Date: 
Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:50:51 GMT
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Jeff, mon ami, If Knights' Kingdom represents France, why oh why, are they
waving flags similar to the Scottish bars (although the X is gold instead of
white)? Eventually, they'll represent my kinfolk, the Irish. Oh, I could see it
now, a little brown-skinned Irish minifig, putting in Princess Storm in her
place.... (Having trouble seeing black Irish folk? Think Ivar from Mystic
Knights.) They already have tried their hand at my other kinfolk, the Native
Americans (Cherokee to be precise...).

     James J.
(Don't just 'play well', play better!)

P.S.: On the sword deal, I miss them too, but I'd REALLY like to see a Ninja
katana in the bluish Aquazone chrome!

In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
What's up with the Knight's Kingdom line.  They have a LOT of weapons • included
in each set, but one thing is missing:  swords! • <snip>
SO, TLC, what's up?  It's not like
England just ran out of steel! ;)

Actually, it's my belief that the KK sets are France to the RK's England.
Britain and France have always had close ties, with many British kings
(for example) holding land in France.  Both nations had lions as important
parts of their heraldry as well.

Note the names of the kings as well.  The Royal King is officially
"Richard Lion-Hearted", at least in some countries, while "Leo" is clearly
a name from a Romance language of some sort.

When you consider the Pirates timeline in addition to Castle, I think most
everyone agrees that the redcoats are British and the bluecoats are
French. (The Armada is Spanish of course, but they're not important right
now.) Note the similarity in design between the redcoats and bluecoats -
and then the similarity in design between the RKs and the KKs.

I think the implications are clear.  The RKs eventually evolve into teh
redcoats, and the KKs into the bluecoats - making them England and France
respectively.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. 8)  It has nothing at all to do
with the paucity of swords in current castle sets, though. Maybe LD will
offer them as one of the "rotating" elements, and we can all get together
and order a metric boatload of them.

J



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  Re: No more steel in jolly old England
 
(...) The X symbol is venerable and could appear any number of places. I'm in agreement that Knight's Kingdom most closely represents France ("The whole known world" pretty much describes the mediaeval Frankish/French view, IMHO); just as Dark (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.castle)
  Re: No more steel in jolly old England
 
(...) it (...) Well James, I am not sure if TLG was trying to represent a specific American Indian tribe (I doubt it), but these minifigs don't look like they are wearing traditional Cherokee styles of clothing. For one thing, Cherokee men would (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.castle)

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(...) <snip> (...) Actually, it's my belief that the KK sets are France to the RK's England. Britain and France have always had close ties, with many British kings (for example) holding land in France. Both nations had lions as important parts of (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.castle)

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