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Subject: 
New tutorial: Running LSynth through MLCad's interface
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lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.mlcad
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Date: 
Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:37:24 GMT
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Hi folks,

generating hoses, chains and electical cabels has never been easier - even for
people with little CAD experience. Check out this tutorial about MLCad's newest
feature and go down to the nuts and bolts of the prog:

www.holly-wood.it

"Synth" well!

w.


Subject: 
Re: Reports in MLCad
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:01:59 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Michael Lachmann wrote:
Ken,

this sounds like a bug in MLCad. I'll investigate that.
The other point is that the next version of MLCad will support the offical
color definitions based on the LDraw.org color standard.

In the mean time you can do the following (so far I remember correctly, and
no functionallity was destroyed by me).

Add a part to a new project, and click on the "M" button in the color-bar.
Now define your colors as you like, and save them as "Default Colors".

Best regards,
   Michael

Thanks Michael, I'll give that a try (and I'm looking forward to the next
version as well)

Ken


Subject: 
Re: Reports in MLCad
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Sun, 11 Jul 2004 06:44:53 GMT
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Ken,

this sounds like a bug in MLCad. I'll investigate that.
The other point is that the next version of MLCad will support the offical
color definitions based on the LDraw.org color standard.

In the mean time you can do the following (so far I remember correctly, and
no functionallity was destroyed by me).

Add a part to a new project, and click on the "M" button in the color-bar.
Now define your colors as you like, and save them as "Default Colors".

Best regards,
   Michael

"Ken Bailey" <kmbailey@paradise_NO_SPAM_.net.nz> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:I0L08B.1Aqy@lugnet.com...
Can anyone answer this question ?

Why does this happen.

If I use a colour from the "More" section of the colorbar toolbar eg; Sand • Green
(378) or Sand Blue (379) that show as their correct names when I view them • in
the parts section at the top of the main construction window, then, when I • go to
"Extras-Report-Pieces" and view the report it shows the colours as • "unused" ?

Is this a (minor) bug ?

If this is a bug, can the program be fixed so that the report will show • the name
of the colour in the report ?

Also, if someone posts the rgb etc figures for any new colours (eg reddish
brown) how can I make MLCad "remember" these figures so I don't have to • re-enter
them every time I re-start MLCad.

Thanks

Ken Bailey


Subject: 
Reports in MLCad
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Fri, 9 Jul 2004 11:07:23 GMT
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Can anyone answer this question ?

Why does this happen.

If I use a colour from the "More" section of the colorbar toolbar eg; Sand Green
(378) or Sand Blue (379) that show as their correct names when I view them in
the parts section at the top of the main construction window, then, when I go to
"Extras-Report-Pieces" and view the report it shows the colours as "unused" ?

Is this a (minor) bug ?

If this is a bug, can the program be fixed so that the report will show the name
of the colour in the report ?

Also, if someone posts the rgb etc figures for any new colours (eg reddish
brown) how can I make MLCad "remember" these figures so I don't have to re-enter
them every time I re-start MLCad.

Thanks

Ken Bailey


Subject: 
Re: Attention: Serious bug in MLCad V3.10 !
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:09:08 GMT
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Hello,

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\Parts
2 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\Parts\s
3 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P
4 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P\48
5 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\NewParts

And the parts in NewParts showed up in MLCad without having to use Scan • Parts.
I just wanted to let you know this worked.
I'll be waiting for the patch.

This one does indeed work for me too.
just downloaded version 3.11 and adjusted the .ini, this time without the
backslash and it is still working :-)

Keep up the good work, Michael!

Greetings
    Maico Arts


Subject: 
*** MLCad V3.11 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:09:21 GMT
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Hi,

MLCad V3.11 is a bug-fix release to V3.00 and corrects the following bugs:

1) Scan path function causing crash and not working correctly
2) Hide Feature doesn't change modified attribute
3) Bug when removing sub-models from mpd projects

As usual MLCad can be downloaded from

http://www.lm-software.com/mlcad/

Best regards and happy playing,
   Michael


Subject: 
Re: Attention: Serious bug in MLCad V3.10 !
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:48:24 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Michael Lachmann wrote:
Hi to all MLCad users.

The following scan order section in MLCad ini will work if ALL PATHS ARE
RELATIVE to the ldraw base directory. Any other path, also full paths will
not work. I believe the errors happened when I rewrote the stuff during
discussion about this feature.

Important also is that you insert a backslash after <LDRAWDIR>!

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\Parts
2 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\Parts\s
3 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P
4 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P\48
5 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\parts
6 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\parts\s
7 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\p
8 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\p\48

the example assumes that the directories listed are below your ldraw base
directory!

I'm going to release a patch release quickly.

I just did a quick test:

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\Parts
2 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\Parts\s
3 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P
4 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P\48
5 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\NewParts

And the parts in NewParts showed up in MLCad without having to use Scan Parts.
I just wanted to let you know this worked.
I'll be waiting for the patch.

Niels


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:08:30 GMT
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Hello Willy

hi,

it is working smoothly on my win2000+SP4 with the following config:

c:\Programme\MLCad\MLCad.exe
c:\Programme\MLCad\PARTS
c:\Programme\MLCad\PARTS\s
...
c:\Programme\MLCad\Eigene_Parts



[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW UnofficialParts
6 = HIDE UnofficialParts\s
7 = SWOW Eigene_Parts

I will try this kind of setup again.
If it works for you, it should work for me too!
Thanks

Maico, your dutch version is no longer working 'cos 3.10 is no longer • supporting
the old language-dll version 1.1. jaco van der molen is currently • upgrading the
dutch dll to 1.2 (in case he is not too busy with his brand new MOC, the • biggest
he ever did - it weight 3 kg something ;-)

Hmm, I think we will see it at LEGO World...
About the language dll, I think I have read something about that, but no it
is confirmed, thanks

hope it helps,

Let's hope so!


Greetings

Maico Arts


Subject: 
Attention: Serious bug in MLCad V3.10 !
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:15:43 GMT
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Hi to all MLCad users.

I just found a realy serious bug in MLCad, I must say I don't know what I
did when I implemented the search-path feature but at least during testing
my mind completely failed and I didn't see any obvious bug.

I'm realy sorry about that!

However there is exactly one methode to get it working, doing anything
different from what is written below can cause MLCad to crash, or the
feature will simply not work at all.

The following scan order section in MLCad ini will work if ALL PATHS ARE
RELATIVE to the ldraw base directory. Any other path, also full paths will
not work. I believe the errors happened when I rewrote the stuff during
discussion about this feature.

Important also is that you insert a backslash after <LDRAWDIR>!

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\Parts
2 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\Parts\s
3 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P
4 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\P\48
5 = SHOW <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\parts
6 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\parts\s
7 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\p
8 = HIDE <LDRAWDIR>\unoff\p\48

the example assumes that the directories listed are below your ldraw base
directory!

I'm going to release a patch release quickly.

Best regards,
   Michael


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 6 Jul 2004 06:17:10 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Maico Arts wrote:
Hello Michael and Niels,

I just checked for myself, I have the same problem.
paths for me are: D:\lego\ldraw\MLCad_V3.10
the unofficial parts are here:
D:\lego\ldraw\unoff\parts
and
D:\lego\ldraw\unoff\p

First I had a longer name for "unoff".

Here is the part from the mlcad.ini:

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\parts
6 = HIDE d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\parts\s
7 = HIDE d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\p
8 = HIDE d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\p\48

For me it is not working either.
btw: the language file is also not working anymore...

Greetings from the Netherlands
    Maico Arts



I am aware of that it is a new function in version 3.10.
When I select Help, About MLCad it shows
MLCad Version 3.10
Copyright (c) 1999-2004 by Michael Lachmann

I just installed MLCad 3.10 on Windows XP Home Edition,
and changed the SCAN_ORDER section in MLCad.ini.
Launched MLCad.exe and selected File, Scan Parts.
Also no success.

Do other users of MLCad 3.10 have this working?

Niels



hi,

it is working smoothly on my win2000+SP4 with the following config:

c:\Programme\MLCad\MLCad.exe
c:\Programme\MLCad\PARTS
c:\Programme\MLCad\PARTS\s
...
c:\Programme\MLCad\Eigene_Parts



[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW UnofficialParts
6 = HIDE UnofficialParts\s
7 = SWOW Eigene_Parts


Maico, your dutch version is no longer working 'cos 3.10 is no longer supporting
the old language-dll version 1.1. jaco van der molen is currently upgrading the
dutch dll to 1.2 (in case he is not too busy with his brand new MOC, the biggest
he ever did - it weight 3 kg something ;-)

3.10 currently supports solely german, italian and (thx to miguel) spanish.

hope it helps,

w.

www.holly-wood.it


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:11:55 GMT
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Hello Michael and Niels,

I just checked for myself, I have the same problem.
paths for me are: D:\lego\ldraw\MLCad_V3.10
the unofficial parts are here:
D:\lego\ldraw\unoff\parts
and
D:\lego\ldraw\unoff\p

First I had a longer name for "unoff".

Here is the part from the mlcad.ini:

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\parts
6 = HIDE d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\parts\s
7 = HIDE d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\p
8 = HIDE d:\lego\ldraw\unoff\p\48

For me it is not working either.
btw: the language file is also not working anymore...

Greetings from the Netherlands
    Maico Arts



I am aware of that it is a new function in version 3.10.
When I select Help, About MLCad it shows
MLCad Version 3.10
Copyright (c) 1999-2004 by Michael Lachmann

I just installed MLCad 3.10 on Windows XP Home Edition,
and changed the SCAN_ORDER section in MLCad.ini.
Launched MLCad.exe and selected File, Scan Parts.
Also no success.

Do other users of MLCad 3.10 have this working?

Niels


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:01:10 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Michael Lachmann wrote:
Sorry about this stupid question:

Are you sure you are using version 3.10 of MLCad?

Because 3.00 is not able to deal with that!

Michael

I am aware of that it is a new function in version 3.10.
When I select Help, About MLCad it shows
MLCad Version 3.10
Copyright (c) 1999-2004 by Michael Lachmann

I just installed MLCad 3.10 on Windows XP Home Edition,
and changed the SCAN_ORDER section in MLCad.ini.
Launched MLCad.exe and selected File, Scan Parts.
Also no success.

Do other users of MLCad 3.10 have this working?

Niels


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:04:57 GMT
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Sorry about this stupid question:

Are you sure you are using version 3.10 of MLCad?

Because 3.00 is not able to deal with that!

Michael

"Niels Karsdorp" <niels.karsdorp@pggm.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:I0DBM0.10Jy@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.cad, Michael Lachmann wrote:
Do a scan parts from the file menu, then it should work.

Michael

I did a scan parts from the file menu, still no success.

I even tried to change the order:

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW NewParts
2 = HIDE NewParts\s
3 = SHOW Parts
4 = HIDE Parts\s
5 = HIDE P
6 = HIDE P\48
7 = SHOW MyParts

No success.

I tried adding backslashes at the end:

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW NewParts\
2 = HIDE NewParts\s\
3 = SHOW Parts\
4 = HIDE Parts\s\
5 = HIDE P\
6 = HIDE P\48\
7 = SHOW MyParts\

No success.

The OS I tried this on is:
Windows NT Version 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6

Niels


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 2004 07:32:24 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, Michael Lachmann wrote:
Do a scan parts from the file menu, then it should work.

Michael

I did a scan parts from the file menu, still no success.

I even tried to change the order:

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW NewParts
2 = HIDE NewParts\s
3 = SHOW Parts
4 = HIDE Parts\s
5 = HIDE P
6 = HIDE P\48
7 = SHOW MyParts

No success.

I tried adding backslashes at the end:

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW NewParts\
2 = HIDE NewParts\s\
3 = SHOW Parts\
4 = HIDE Parts\s\
5 = HIDE P\
6 = HIDE P\48\
7 = SHOW MyParts\

No success.

The OS I tried this on is:
Windows NT Version 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6

Niels


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Sun, 4 Jul 2004 06:38:49 GMT
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Do a scan parts from the file menu, then it should work.

Michael

"Niels Karsdorp" <niels.karsdorp@pggm.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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How does that scan_order thing work?
I've added three more paths in mlcad.ini, but the parts in these folders • don't
show up anywhere in MLCad.

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW NewParts
6 = HIDE NewParts\s
7 = SHOW MyParts

Niels


Subject: 
Re: Developing MLCAD plugins?
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Sun, 4 Jul 2004 06:35:55 GMT
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Don,

"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam.go.away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Hztzr8.y0t@lugnet.com...
<SNIP>
While you're checking, think about this.  What if the MLCad generators
were reconfigured as some sort of plugins, and the plugin specs were
documented?  Then everyone could use your generators.  You know, weird
people like me who are frightened off by too many toolbars, or those
crazy people who insist on editing their LDRAW code in a text editor
like LDDP. ;^)

Enjoy,

Don

That will be documented anyway - sure. But for that feature I have to think
even more ...
but I have already an idea how that could work.
I just need to find a spare hour where I can hack a quick prototype, to see
the cons and pros of this
idea.

Best regards,
   Michael


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:37:46 GMT
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Personally I would like to see a standard parts structure like this, at least
for MLCAD;

Parts

oldparts

unoffparts

myparts

Parts would be the officially released parts

oldparts would be where old official parts are moved to when they are updated

unoffparts is just that, unapproved parts not part of official release

myparts is where you can develop new parts.

In MLCAD you click on the parts list you want and get only the parts in that
list.

when you display an existing model and the part exists in more than one list,
display a selection box to allow the person to select the version of the part
they want to use.

there would have to be a way to move parts between lists and possible a method
to allow the user to move parts form list to list or even delete parts for one
or more lists.

that is the basic idea. I know it would be a complex process to code, but it is
worth a thought or 2.


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:32:58 GMT
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hi niels,

the code looks fine. please check the following two things:

* lets persume that that MLCad.exe and MLCad.ini is stored in:

c:\Programs\MLCad

and the parts are in:

c:\Programs\MLCad\Parts

then your custom parts have to be placed in

c:\Programs\MLCad\NewParts
c:\Programs\MLCad\MyParts

because the custom folders are defined with the relative path.

* because of the scan order you defined MLCad will ignor parts with an identical
number in NewParts and MyParts. if you are workin' on fixes stored in NewParts
you have to invert the scan order.

hope this helps,

My folder structure is as follows:
D:\LDraw\MLCad_V3.10\   includes MLCad 3.10 install, including MLCad.exe and MLCad.ini
D:\LDraw\Parts\
D:\LDraw\Parts\S
D:\LDraw\P\
D:\LDraw\P\48\
D:\LDraw\NewParts\
D:\LDraw\NewParts\S\
D:\LDraw\MyParts\

NewParts and MyParts contain only new parts (which don't exist in Parts)

I have changed the section to full paths:
[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW D:\LDraw\NewParts
6 = HIDE D:\LDraw\NewParts\s
7 = SHOW D:\LDraw\MyParts

I launch MLCad by doubleclicking on D:\LDraw\MLCad_V3.10\MLCad.exe from the
explorer.
Still no success.

Niels


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:23:39 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, Niels Karsdorp wrote:
How does that scan_order thing work?
I've added three more paths in mlcad.ini, but the parts in these folders don't
show up anywhere in MLCad.

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW NewParts
6 = HIDE NewParts\s
7 = SHOW MyParts

Niels



hi niels,

the code looks fine. please check the following two things:

* lets persume that that MLCad.exe and MLCad.ini is stored in:

c:\Programs\MLCad

and the parts are in:

c:\Programs\MLCad\Parts

then your custom parts have to be placed in

c:\Programs\MLCad\NewParts
c:\Programs\MLCad\MyParts

because the custom folders are defined with the relative path.



* because of the scan order you defined MLCad will ignor parts with an identical
number in NewParts and MyParts. if you are workin' on fixes stored in NewParts
you have to invert the scan order.

hope this helps,

w.


Subject: 
Re: *** MLCad V3.10 is available ***
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:31:42 GMT
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How does that scan_order thing work?
I've added three more paths in mlcad.ini, but the parts in these folders don't
show up anywhere in MLCad.

[SCAN_ORDER]
1 = SHOW Parts
2 = HIDE Parts\s
3 = HIDE P
4 = HIDE P\48
5 = SHOW NewParts
6 = HIDE NewParts\s
7 = SHOW MyParts

Niels



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