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Re: LSC Proposal 0.99
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Wed, 7 May 2003 00:19:27 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes:
[...]
The LSC shall have a mailing list or other communication method where only
members can post to, but the entire community can read.  [...]

Hi Tim,

Give me a hollar if you would like a special group for this on LUGNET.  If you
have a list (either static or dynamic) of email addresses whom you want to
grant posting access, it would be fairly easy for me to set things on LUGNET
such that anyone could follow along but only selected people (whom you
define) could post to it.  It would also automatically prevent accidental
cross-posting.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: LSC Proposal 0.99
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Wed, 7 May 2003 02:24:23 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes:
[...]
The LSC shall have a mailing list or other communication method where only
members can post to, but the entire community can read.  [...]

Hi Tim,

Give me a hollar if you would like a special group for this on LUGNET.  If you
have a list (either static or dynamic) of email addresses whom you want to
grant posting access, it would be fairly easy for me to set things on LUGNET
such that anyone could follow along but only selected people (whom you
define) could post to it.  It would also automatically prevent accidental
cross-posting.

Great, thanks!

Ultimately, the means of communication should be up to the elected LSC
members to decide for themselves.

If I had my say, I like the idea of a mailing list on LDraw.org, which posts
messages automatically to a LUGNET group for convenience. Perhaps similar to
how lugnet.robotics is set up, but where only specific people have posting
privileges?

I'll keep it in mind and suggest it to the LSC when they are elected.

-Tim


Subject: 
mailing list linkage
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Fri, 16 May 2003 22:19:41 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes:
If I had my say, I like the idea of a mailing list on LDraw.org, which
posts messages automatically to a LUGNET group for convenience. Perhaps
similar to how lugnet.robotics is set up, but where only specific people
have posting privileges?

Aha -- yes, that would work too -- and is extremely easy to set up.

In fact, if you wanted to make it read-only on LUGNET (so that the only way
to post is via the mailing list on ldraw.org), all we need to do is subscribe
an address <something@lugnet.com> to the <ldraw-tech@ldraw.org> mailing list.

LMK,

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: mailing list linkage
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 01:05:19 GMT
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On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:19:41PM +0000, Todd Lehman wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes:
If I had my say, I like the idea of a mailing list on LDraw.org, which
posts messages automatically to a LUGNET group for convenience. Perhaps
similar to how lugnet.robotics is set up, but where only specific people
have posting privileges?

Aha -- yes, that would work too -- and is extremely easy to set up.

In fact, if you wanted to make it read-only on LUGNET (so that the only way
to post is via the mailing list on ldraw.org), all we need to do is subscribe
an address <something@lugnet.com> to the <ldraw-tech@ldraw.org> mailing list.

we can easily also tell mailman to post each email to the mailing list
to a group on the NNTP server.

Dan


Subject: 
Re: mailing list linkage
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 02:40:22 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Dan Boger writes:
In fact, if you wanted to make it read-only on LUGNET (so that the only way
to post is via the mailing list on ldraw.org), all we need to do is subscribe
an address <something@lugnet.com> to the <ldraw-tech@ldraw.org> mailing list.

we can easily also tell mailman to post each email to the mailing list
to a group on the NNTP server.

Cool.  Hmm, which to choose...  It makes less work for me doing it the
mailing list way, because of the incoming gateway translations at the
e-mail level.  What do we want to call it here?  lugnet.cad.ldraw-tech?
lugnet.cad.ldraw.tech?

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: mailing list linkage
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 02:47:06 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Dan Boger writes:
In fact, if you wanted to make it read-only on LUGNET (so that the only way
to post is via the mailing list on ldraw.org), all we need to do is subscribe
an address <something@lugnet.com> to the <ldraw-tech@ldraw.org> mailing list.

we can easily also tell mailman to post each email to the mailing list
to a group on the NNTP server.

Cool.  Hmm, which to choose...  It makes less work for me doing it the
mailing list way, because of the incoming gateway translations at the
e-mail level.  What do we want to call it here?  lugnet.cad.ldraw-tech?
lugnet.cad.ldraw.tech?

--Todd

I think lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw.tech is long but it fits in with the
existing scheme

-Orion


Subject: 
Re: LSC Proposal 0.99
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 11:52:00 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Todd Lehman writes:
Give me a hollar if you would like a special group for this on LUGNET.  If you
have a list (either static or dynamic) of email addresses whom you want to
grant posting access, it would be fairly easy for me to set things on LUGNET
such that anyone could follow along but only selected people (whom you
define) could post to it.  It would also automatically prevent accidental
cross-posting.

This sounds like a cool idea, but I don't think there's a need for it right
now.  The techies list is kinda low-interest -- it's good to have a public
archive of the list (which we've already got), but I don't see a burning
need to mirror it onto LUGNET.

Steve


Subject: 
Re: mailing list linkage
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 15:18:02 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Orion Pobursky writes:
I think lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw.tech is long but it fits in with the
existing scheme

Oh, that's a good point.  Yes, it's a bit long, but as Steve points out,
it's a relatively low-interest group.  Putting it as .ldraw.tech instead
of .ldraw-tech also makes it cleaner if other lists (such as, say, Tim's
ldraw-siggraph list) wanted to be mirrored here as well.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: LSC Proposal 0.99
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 15:27:55 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes:
This sounds like a cool idea, but I don't think there's a need for it right
now.  The techies list is kinda low-interest -- it's good to have a public
archive of the list (which we've already got), but I don't see a burning
need to mirror it onto LUGNET.

I think both LDraw.org and the community at large would benefit from
it being mirrored.

And another beauty of mirroring an archive like this is that it's so easy
to set up that even if there's not a perceived burning need for it, the
long-term benefits easily outweigh the short-term effort involved.  At
the ldraw.org server end, it's as trivial as adding a new e-mail address
to the distribution list.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: LSC Proposal 0.99
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 20:27:46 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Todd Lehman writes:
I think both LDraw.org and the community at large would benefit from
it being mirrored.

And another beauty of mirroring an archive like this is that it's so easy
to set up that even if there's not a perceived burning need for it, the
long-term benefits easily outweigh the short-term effort involved.  At
the ldraw.org server end, it's as trivial as adding a new e-mail address
to the distribution list.

Never mind...  It sounds as though the LDraw-tech folks really don't want
their list mirrored here.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: LSC Proposal 0.99
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 21:22:24 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Todd Lehman writes:
I think both LDraw.org and the community at large would benefit from
it being mirrored.

And another beauty of mirroring an archive like this is that it's so easy
to set up that even if there's not a perceived burning need for it, the
long-term benefits easily outweigh the short-term effort involved.  At
the ldraw.org server end, it's as trivial as adding a new e-mail address
to the distribution list.

Never mind...  It sounds as though the LDraw-tech folks really don't want
their list mirrored here.

--Todd

What are you talking about Todd?  I for one would like the list mirrored here.

-Orion


Subject: 
Re: LSC Proposal 0.99
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Sat, 17 May 2003 21:41:06 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Orion Pobursky writes:
Never mind...  It sounds as though the LDraw-tech folks really don't want
their list mirrored here.

What are you talking about Todd?  I for one would like the list mirrored here.

Orion,

Sorry for getting your hopes up.

What I mean above is that I jumped the gun.  Yesterday, I misunderstood
Tim Courtney and Dan Boger in what they wrote here:

   http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/org/ldraw/?n=2409
   http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/org/ldraw/?n=2443

I was proceeding under the general impression that it would occur, although
Larry wrote me privately last night just to make sure that I wasn't going to do
anything major on my end before the group reached a consensus.

Anyway, Today Dan and Tim wrote:

   http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/ldraw-tech/2003-May/000147.html
   http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/ldraw-tech/2003-May/000152.html
   http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/ldraw-tech/2003-May/000154.html

The consensus on the LDraw-tech list seems to be that they would like to
keep the list public but obscure.  I'm not on the list, but I've been following
along in the public archives.

--Todd


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