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Motorized microscale train
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lugnet.announce.moc
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Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:16:45 GMT
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Mocpages link

Brickshelf link

This MOC was actually completed in one day, the last day I had before a meeting with some fellow Dutch Lego enthusiasts. If you want to look at the pretty pictures of the meeting, just do a Brickshelf search on the word “Deurne” (which happened to be the location of the meeting.)

Anyway, back to the MOC. Since I was working with a time limit the scenery is not as pretty or as big as I’d have liked it to have been, but that’s also due to the fact that I was straight out of chain links, so the train makes some pretty harsh turns. I’m really happy about the train itself, though. It’s built with a zillertal bahn steam engine in mind (it’s modeled after one of my dad’s LGB trains, but so far I haven’t been able to track down the make or model, though) As you may have figured, the train is pulled forward with the two magnets at the front and back, which work pretty well as far as steering is concerned. The plate it runs on is a reversed space landing pad, as it’s the thinnest and smoothest surface I could build with Lego elements. The surface it runs on looks more like a road than traintracks... but I still think trains look much better than, say, cars.

Anyway, I’d love to hear what you folks think.


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:11:11 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Peer Kreuger wrote:
  

Mocpages link

Brickshelf link

This MOC was actually completed in one day, the last day I had before a meeting with some fellow Dutch Lego enthusiasts. If you want to look at the pretty pictures of the meeting, just do a Brickshelf search on the word “Deurne” (which happened to be the location of the meeting.)

Anyway, back to the MOC. Since I was working with a time limit the scenery is not as pretty or as big as I’d have liked it to have been, but that’s also due to the fact that I was straight out of chain links, so the train makes some pretty harsh turns. I’m really happy about the train itself, though. It’s built with a zillertal bahn steam engine in mind (it’s modeled after one of my dad’s LGB trains, but so far I haven’t been able to track down the make or model, though) As you may have figured, the train is pulled forward with the two magnets at the front and back, which work pretty well as far as steering is concerned. The plate it runs on is a reversed space landing pad, as it’s the thinnest and smoothest surface I could build with Lego elements. The surface it runs on looks more like a road than traintracks... but I still think trains look much better than, say, cars.

Anyway, I’d love to hear what you folks think.

Hi Peer,

I was admiring this model in your gallery and hoping you would post something about it. I think it is an absolutely brilliant model and idea so congratulations for both the inspiration and the implementation. Brilliant work!

Tim


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:03:09 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   In lugnet.announce.moc, Peer Kreuger wrote:
  

Mocpages link

Brickshelf link

This MOC was actually completed in one day, the last day I had before a meeting with some fellow Dutch Lego enthusiasts. If you want to look at the pretty pictures of the meeting, just do a Brickshelf search on the word “Deurne” (which happened to be the location of the meeting.)

Anyway, back to the MOC. Since I was working with a time limit the scenery is not as pretty or as big as I’d have liked it to have been, but that’s also due to the fact that I was straight out of chain links, so the train makes some pretty harsh turns. I’m really happy about the train itself, though. It’s built with a zillertal bahn steam engine in mind (it’s modeled after one of my dad’s LGB trains, but so far I haven’t been able to track down the make or model, though) As you may have figured, the train is pulled forward with the two magnets at the front and back, which work pretty well as far as steering is concerned. The plate it runs on is a reversed space landing pad, as it’s the thinnest and smoothest surface I could build with Lego elements. The surface it runs on looks more like a road than traintracks... but I still think trains look much better than, say, cars.

Anyway, I’d love to hear what you folks think.

Hi Peer,

I was admiring this model in your gallery and hoping you would post something about it. I think it is an absolutely brilliant model and idea so congratulations for both the inspiration and the implementation. Brilliant work!

Tim

Cool! That should sort the problem of how to propel 2-wide trains (for those who don’t have N-gauge track)!

Mark


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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lugnet.trains
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Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:23:07 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Peer Kreuger wrote: Wow, that’s all very well done! The space baseplate, the magnets, the detailing on the train itself, et al! And easy expansion for a large layout. And hey... if you use one of the contoured baseplates, you can have valleys and hills too!

A potential solution to running out of chain links would be to eliminate them entirely, and use simple thread (lego/non-lego-- up to you) And thread it through the magnet holder stud. Haven’t tried this myself, but there should be enough power for the magnet to rise upward on it’s own when you place the train above it.

BTW how did you attach the magnets to the chain links in the first place?

Legoswami


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:28:05 GMT
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Using thread instead of chain links is indeed a cheaper solution, and may even give more curving options. The only problem I’d see is propulsion, thread doesn’t have as much ’ grip’ as chain links have.

   BTW how did you attach the magnets to the chain links in the first place?

+

The wide chain link fits snugly inside the technic hole of the magnet holder.

As can also be seen here , which is incidentally also the set where I got my 4 ‘wide variety’ chain links.


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:31:50 GMT
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I really like this idea.

I had tried using a chain drive for a small cart ride

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=145541

In my design, I used one of the "fat" chain links to attach a plate, which
supported the cart.  I had problems with the plate falling off every so often.
Also, there was a pretty large opening to allow the plate to stick through the
"ground" into the vehicle.

I like your use of magnets instead.  How did you mount the magnet to the chain
drive though?  I can't figure it out from the pictures.

Thanks


Subject: 
Re: Motorized microscale train
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.build.microscale
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Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:07:54 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Peer Kreuger wrote:
  

Simple elegant design. but you forgot to crosspost to the most important group, Microscale. :)

The inverted baseplate is such a simple idea, one question though, do the magnets have to be pressed up to the underside of the baseplate, or can the be a little gap?

otherwise, for a days work, wow?

Aaron A


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:07:04 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Aaron Amatnieks wrote:
   Simple elegant design. but you forgot to crosspost to the most important group, Microscale. :)

Ah yes, crossposting. I think the concept finally stopped eluding me ;)

   The inverted baseplate is such a simple idea, one question though, do the magnets have to be pressed up to the underside of the baseplate, or can the be a little gap?

There is a little gap between the baseplate and the magnet below, but the pull between both magnets is so strong that they’ll stretch the chain a little and come together anyway.

   otherwise, for a days work, wow?

Please do understand that this was indeed a full day; starting at 9 in the morning and quitting at 6 in the evening. (Including several breaks, of course). Also, I had been thinking about this project a lot, only to find the time to do it at the last possible moment. Like a lot of folks, I work best when there’s some kind of deadline looming. :)


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:21:02 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Brad Hamilton wrote: snipsnip
   In my design, I used one of the “fat” chain links to attach a plate, which supported the cart. I had problems with the plate falling off every so often. I like your use of magnets instead. How did you mount the magnet to the chain drive though? I can’t figure it out from the pictures.

At first I also tried to attach plates to the bigger chain links (at some point I even considered using glue), but the other option you have is sticking one end of the big link into a technic hole.



And conventiently enough, a magnet holder also has such a hole. A very simple and elegant solution (if I do say so myself), and it won’t fall off easily.


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Re: Motorized microscale train
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Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:06:21 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Samarth “Legoswami” Moray wrote:
   A potential solution to running out of chain links would be to eliminate them entirely, and use simple thread (lego/non-lego-- up to you) ...

A second alternative to specialized chain links -- and one I haven’t tried yet -- would be Technic link-arms and pins, threaded around large-diameter tires. The magnet-holders can then be pinned vertically, and the curves in the “track” aren’t so abrubt.

There might be a problem keeping this chain taut, although there are enough wheel-diameters available for experimentation. Also, the tire-chain combo wouldn’t move as smoothly as chain links-gears, so some extra gearing-down might be necessary.

This is still necessarily 2D -- I’m not sure if it can be extended to 3D (a track with hills). There might be linkages that would permit both horiz and vertical (alternative) movement in the chain, but the extra floppiness might cause it to fall off the wheels.

Now, how to adapt this to a moving sidewalk for minifigs... And I wonder if the scheme would work vertically? --E.g. a loop of elevator cars moving up the side of a skyscraper, or one of those sci-fi moving ladders (e.g. “Star Blazers”).


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