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Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:10:47 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Rene Hoffmeister wrote:
   Hi all,

please see former discussion here: http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=3369

Thanks to all who were contributing ideas and suggestions.

So here is -without much fuss- the 6th draft of a new homepage:

http://www.lugnet.com/index-test-6.php

Known bugs: Upper header section isn’t displayed correctly in some browsers (but should be correct at least in IE and Firefox). I’m working on this.

Please post again comments, ideas, suggestions; I’d like to read your opinions.

Leg Godt!
Rene

Rene, this is really coming together nicely. My few personal nits...
  1. The alternating background colours on the top stories links seems to just add clutter and detract from actualy reading the links. Is it really necessary?
  2. The text for the titles in the center section seems a little big.
  3. Having pre-existing text in search boxes. Uh, I hate that. :)
Keep up the great work!

J


Subject: 
Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:30:54 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Jason Allemann wrote:
  
  1. The alternating background colours on the top stories links seems to just add clutter and detract from actualy reading the links. Is it really necessary?

I quickly snapped a version with the line backgrounds matching the box:

I agree with Jason, I think with the gap between lines, this looks more pleasing, although there might need to be a line above the “More top stories”, or something to separate it better.

ROSCO


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Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:03:01 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Jason Allemann wrote:

  
  1. The alternating background colours on the top stories links seems to just add clutter and detract from actualy reading the links. Is it really necessary?

You know, in theory, it is supposed to let the eye find and locate the individual stories better, but I have to agree with you Jason-- for some reason, it seems to confuse my eye rather than help it. I find it easier to read the stories in a monochrome format. In this particular instance, perhaps the spacing is simply good enough to do the job.

JOHN


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Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:47:22 GMT
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Hi Jason,

  
  1. The alternating background colours on the top stories links seems to just add clutter and detract from actualy reading the links. Is it really necessary?

I will try without them in #7.

  
  1. Having pre-existing text in search boxes. Uh, I hate that. :)

Normally, me too. And though it is against WCAG, I also will try without it in #7.

   Keep up the great work!

Thank you very much!

-Rene


Subject: 
Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:00:20 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Rene Hoffmeister wrote:
   Hi Jason,

  
  1. The alternating background colours on the top stories links seems to just add clutter and detract from actualy reading the links. Is it really necessary?

I will try without them in #7.

This could be something that is easily configurable by the user - so I would still keep the 2 different styles, but give them the same colour in the default page style.

ROSCO


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Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:59:38 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Rene Hoffmeister wrote:
  
  
  1. Having pre-existing text in search boxes. Uh, I hate that. :)

Normally, me too. And though it is against WCAG, I also will try without it in #7.

Change


<label for="query">Search for: </label></span>
<input type="text" name="query" value="Search LUGNET" size="16"  maxlength="200" id="query" />


to


<label for="query" accesskey="s">Search for: </label></span>
<input type="text" name="query" value="Search LUGNET" size="16"  maxlength="200" id="query" onfocus="this.value = '';" onclick="this.value =  '';" />


The onclick/onfocus erase the text. The accesskey attribute lets people type ‘s’ to give the search box focus if they have accessibility issues. You might have to move the accesskey to the field itself; I don’t remember if putting it on a label still gives the field focus.


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Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:19:08 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Jason Allemann wrote:
  
  1. The alternating background colours on the top stories links seems to just add clutter and detract from actualy reading the links. Is it really necessary?

I think what bothers me (and maybe this is the case for others) is that these alternating colors are too disimilar--the contast between them is too much. I would suggest replacing the white color with the same light blue as the background of the Top Stories box.

  
  1. The text for the titles in the center section seems a little big.

I agree that those headlines could be reduced in size a little bit.

Something about the text in that middle column doesn’t sit quite right with me. At first I thought maybe it was that the text is justified, leaving non-uniform spaces between words, but now I think it’s that there’s too much space between the lines of text. Is there any way to adjust that without simply using a smaller font size? I’d also be OK with using a smaller font size for the items in the middle column.

There also seems to be too much space bewteen the lines of the “More Top Stories as highlighted by LUGNET Members” link at the bottom of the Top Stories box. Compare that to what seems like the “correct” amount of space between the lines of the actual links to the Top Stories stories.

  
  1. Having pre-existing text in search boxes. Uh, I hate that. :)

I don’t mind the text being there as long as it vanishes when I click inside the box. Having it stay there is pretty annoying.

   Keep up the great work!

Yes, it’s coming along quite nicely!

Best,

-Brendan


Subject: 
Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 4
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Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:34:59 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Brendan Powell Smith wrote:
   I don’t mind the text being there as long as it vanishes when I click inside the box. Having it stay there is pretty annoying.

Oh, hey! I just realized that you managed to squeeze in the Search feature by putting the label “Search LUGNET” inside the search box. I think that’s a great solution. I guess it seemed so natural I didn’t even notice at first.

I still think the text should clear away when the user clicks oin the box, but I just wanted to compliment you on that design idea.

Another thought: in my mock-up, I had added the a “Join/Log In” link centered over the right column. But if there’s room (as there is in the current draft), this could also just be added to the set of icons across the top of the page. Or is there a reason you think there should not be such an icon/link on the front page?

-Brendan


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