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Re: What Bulk Parts for Offset? (was:Re: New Look for old trains)
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lugnet.trains
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Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:57:54 GMT
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cmasi@cmasi.chem#nomorespam#.tulane.edu
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James Mathis wrote:
>
> In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi writes:
> > John Neal wrote:
> > > Speaking of the 8 wides, regarding the euro box car:
> > > http://www.ee.nmt.edu/~jmathis/train_portfolio/sld044.htm
> > > I noticed you have gone to great lengths to offset the sides and roof, but • as I
> > > look at the proto, I see that the offset is negligible. I happened to • notice
> > > this because I have just gone through the same design exercise with a couple • of
> > > box cars of my own, and I decided to use the breaks in the tall bricks to
> > > *imply* the offset, even though they are flush. Did you ever consider doing
> > > this? (Sorry I don't have pics yet to illustrate).
> > >
> > > -John
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Are you saying that stacking 1x2 bricks atop each other to make a wall will
> > imply an offset because the gap between the adjacent bricks suggests a shadow
> > and thus an offset?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > P.S. I have given up on the whole offset thing (for now). All the offsets look
> > cool, but it just seems too special part intensive for me to do all the time.
>
> What parts (special, or not) would you need to continue building and exploring
> constructions that employ the "offset thing"?
>
> I use for my box car, even if inappropriately, the following:
> 1) technic pins with stud (1.3 long)
> 2) technic beams, particularly 1x2 technic beam bricks
> 3) 1x2 tiles
> 4) basic bricks and plates
> 5) round 1x1 plates
> 6) 45 and 33 degree slopes
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> The most recognized offset part, the 1x2 plate with centered 1/2 stud offset, I
> didn't even use for this box car. However, I use this part in many other
> creations.
>
> Other offset parts that I can think of off-hand generally rotate the stud
> orientation by 90 degrees:
> 1) 1x1x1 brick with side stud
> 2) 1x2 plate with 90 degree 1x4 thin plate
> 3) 1x2 brick hinge
> 4) several other parts that do the 90 degree rotation...
>
> I would love to see any of the above parts more readily available in bulk.
>
> Chris- and others- I would really be interested in what parts you hand in mind
> for the "offset thing".
>
> later,
> James Mathis
snip older stuff
Yep, you got all the ones I am worrying about on your list.
The 1x2 center stud tile/plate. (Using a bunch of these to fake a door railing
on a box car. I'll be reclaiming them shortly. You need a lot of these when you
build 8/5 wide diesels)
1x1x1 brick with side stud
1x2 plate with 90 degree 1x4 thin plate
1x2 brick hinge
technic pins with stud (1.3 long)
technic beams, particularly 1x2 technic beam bricks
1x2 tiles
It could also be that I am lazy, and I sometimes wonder if the ribbing is worth
the extra effort on a box car. I think the ribbing that Larry puts on his
hoppers is very important to the design. I also think the gondolas out there
really benefit from the ribbing, but sometimes I wonder about the box cars.
Chris
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