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Re: 9v Update (ILTCO's involvment)
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Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:58:26 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Steven Barile wrote:
> Hi All,
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> As you know there haws been a change in ILTCO's contact person at LEGO and
> unfortunately the "9v Announcement" was made via the Ambassadors list rather
> than the normal ILTCO channel. Moving forward we hope that this issue has been
> fixed.
"normal" ? Could you please explain why ILTCO is the normal channel for such
issues ?
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> Also let me apologize for not communicating the following information back to
> the community more readily. However it is a bit complicated with Jake gone and
> NDAs etc... please read on. Also I just returned from vacation (purposely away
> from email) for the last 2 weeks.
and it's nice to see you back. Welcome back Steve.
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> As for the 9v train line ending:
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> * There has been 5 international ILTCO AFOLs working with LEGO (under NDA, which
> is standard toy company procedure) for about a year now on the future of 9v and
> the addition of the battery operated trains. I think we did as much as possible
> short of killing the idea of the battery operated trains; which was a decision
> that LEGO had already made before contacting us.
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> * ILTCO exec committee had a meeting with the new president of LEGO at BrickFest
> last year and discussed the potential of LEGO being a viable hobby train gauge.
> The massive layout at the NMRA show with 20k visitors and the other train hobby
> companies spoke volumes to Jorgen. "I had no idea train where so popular in the
> US." - Jorgen. I think we made an impact on LEGO with respect to America being a
> viable train consumer (BTW 2x the number of LEGO trains are sold in Germany over
> the US).
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> * For the last 2 months there are several (~10) international ILTCO members
> working very closely with LEGO (again under NDA, which is still standard toy
> company procedure) on the "Hobby Train Line". There has been several hundred
> message posts with LEGO on this topic comprehending most everything you can
> imagine.
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> Overall we have been highly influential; evidence that the 9v line is still
> alive today. Unfortunately today I can not disclose any more details but as time
> goes on will be able to.
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> Another point here is ILTCO goals. Number 4 on the list of ILTCO goals (see
> below for all of them) is "the cultivation of L-Gauge as a recognized model
> railroading hobby standard". The very fact that LEGO is even using the term
> "Hobby Train" is a huge step forward.
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> One more thing, there is already a "Save 9v" web site, its called www.ITLCO.org.
> We would be happy to post news items such as constructive essays on why not to
> kill 9v! We can hold polls too. What the polls would test are a bit nebulous;
> "Should LEGO kill 9v?" - Let's see, um NO. All kidding aside, we take all this
> very seriously. How can ILTCO help?
There is a misunderstanding and I think you can easily clarify this. Do you
think Eric has overstepped his bounds by launching the save.9vtrains website ?
(sincerly, there is no trap in this question, it just seems that people read
between the lines, thing I'm not able to do myself).
> Please don't misunderstand the tone of this message. I am delighted that there
> is a large community discussion on this topic.
> PLEASE keep discussing this and
> encouraging the Ambassadors to feed this stuff back.
ok...Eric has not overstepped his bounds. Clear. Thank you Steve for your light
speed answer.
But also understand that
> ILTCO is not standing by idle but deeply involved with LEGO and spending
> literally 1000's of man hours keeping 9v alive!
Thank you for this.
DidierE
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> SteveB
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> Section 2.01: The ILTCO Goals
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> The purposes of this Organization shall be:
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> 1. the promotion of good fellowship and communication among LEGO model
> railroading enthusiasts; and
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> 2. the promotion and dissemination of knowledge about LEGO model railroading,
> through online resources, meetings, publications, and libraries; and
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> 3. the supporting of the formation and growth of LEGO Train Clubs; and
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> 4. the cultivation of L-Gauge as a recognized model railroading hobby standard;
> and
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> 5. the establishment of comprehensive communications with The LEGO® Group /
> LEGO® Direct, NMRA, hobby publishers, train show organizers, and the like; and
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> 6. the representation of the interests and concerns of the LEGO Train community.
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| * “Could you please explain why ILTCO is the normal channel for such issues?“ - Didier Enjary ILTCO is operated under a democratic process. All 33 member clubs are equally represented and receive communications at the exactly the same time thru the (...) (19 years ago, 5-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| Hi All, As you know there haws been a change in ILTCO's contact person at LEGO and unfortunately the "9v Announcement" was made via the Ambassadors list rather than the normal ILTCO channel. Moving forward we hope that this issue has been fixed. (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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