 | | Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | Hi all! Jan Beyer has shown us parts of the new train System in Frechen/Germany. Just some unassortet aspects and informations. - The track is full plastic as already seen. - The train base is 32 studs long and contrains IR recievers on both sides (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | (...) thank you for the info ben! i have a couple quick questions i hope you don't mind. is there any info on a release date? the wire that goes to the motor, is that the same old 2x2 conecter? i assume the battery box is on the bottom side of the (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | | | (...) [SNIP] (...) Hi Ondrew, picture taking was not allowed and we have respected this limitation. Release date will be in september (as planned so far) I had less than 3 minutes to have a view on the system. I have not demounted the motor from the (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | | (...) Thanks for the info Ben, This does not seem to fit with the train scene photo because that shows metal wheels and a 30 stud long baseplate. The Baseplate length has been counted by at least 3 AFOLs discussing on the Brickish Association (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Holger Matthes
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| | | | | | | (...) Hi, yes, correct. The horn is inside the control unit you will hold in your hands, not in the train itself! Holger my P.S. Hopefully there will be a wide varity of additional parts at S@H! Different colors for baseplates, extra wheels, motors, (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | | | | (...) It doesn't sound as complicated as back in the 12V/4.5V times. At least both the battery-powered and the rail-powered trains run on the same voltage. (...) I would be cool with one or two extra outputs from the IR receiver for controlling (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | | | In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Reynolds wrote: Hi Jonathan! [snip] (...) Sorry my mistake: I read the plate woud be 32 studs at 1000steine, but in fact it is 30 studs long. (...) Yes correct as Holger has already mentioned. Leg Godt! Ben P.s.: (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | "Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com> wrote in message news:IsuFqK.21G6@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Maybe, maybe not. It is entirely possible LEGO will have a cable with the new RJ jack on one end and the traditional (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | | Six hours? Seems a rather horrid endurance to me, certainly in terms of shows... But if the IR can be used with the metal motors, that oughta be fairly interesting. Though no additional wires, soo.... Hm. I want to get my hands on one of these (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine —Tony Hafner
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| | | | | | (...) If you have an rail-powered train running constantly on each track and augment the layout by manually running an IR train on each track as well, then a set of batteries will easily get you through a day at most shows. Use rechargeable (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | NXT external power? —Ted Michon
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| | | | | | | (...) Tony- Huh? The Wired article specifically mentioned that the user group lobbied hard for an external power port but did not get one. -Ted (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: NXT external power? —Steven Barile
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| | | | | | | | I played with the NXT and spoke with the product manager at CES. There is NO AC plug on the NXT, nor can it be powered via USB. SteveB (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: NXT external power? —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Look here at picture NXT5. (URL) will see a power entry panel blank coming up from the battery compartment cover plate. It seems possible that an alternate cover might actually contain either a rechargeable battery pack, A/C power supply or (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: NXT external power? —Tony Hafner
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) From this press release: (URL) of the new system include: New 32-bit NXT intelligent brick Rechargeable battery system with A/C plug and then a bunch of boring stuff about sensors, servos, Bluetooth, and such I did notice that it didn't (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: NXT external power? —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | | "Steven Barile" <sebarile@sstanamera.com> wrote in message news:It09u2.CGF@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ...] USB powered would have been a reasonable compromise, that is too bad. Mike -- Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring.com (URL) - North (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: NXT external power? —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yeah but it would have been an expensive option I think. There would have to be a built in DC:DC converter to increase the USB 5 volt supply to the necessary internal 9v. And that means the only about 200mA would have been available internally (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | (...) Having seen a production unit (as well as sensors) I haven't been able to discover any external power jack. I was allowed by Jan Beyer to make pics and have posted them here : (URL) Jan-Albert van Ree | (URL) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | (...) Thanks for the information Ben. I have a question - did they have working lights? Were the lights on normal 9V cables? If they could not be controlled from the remote, how did they switch on and off? Also, was the motor connected by a standard (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | | | (...) [snip] Dear Jason, as just written in a reply on Ondrews questions, I cannot tell the answers to your questions. I missed these specific details. And we have seen not more than a train base with a metroliner placed on top of it... Regarding (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —John Barnes
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| | | | | (...) Hi Ben. Thanks for the write up. Sounds like the Manas style IR with serial data packets being sent at diffferent rates simulating multi-channel on a single medium is being used. From your description, I am assuming that "little" locomotives (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Holger Matthes
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| | | | | Hi all! I also saw the new train system during our show in Frechen/Germany last weekend. I'd like to add some more information. - The motor has the same size then the normal 9V train motor. The only difference is the hole for the technic axle. - The (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Tim David
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| | | | | | (...) That would explan the black dots on the side pieces noticed in (URL) (and the black wheels) pity that they didn't they add another axlehole to allow for 6 wheels if wanted. (...) Something that hadn't occured to me before, but yes, that would (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Derek Lim
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| | | | (...) Forgive me if it has been covered before, but the primary question I'd like to ask is whether TLC will continue to produce the old 9v track and 9v motors - and then, if so, will new sets be released based on those old units? Thanks, Derek (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —John Barnes
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| | | | | (...) I feel compelled to ask; do you really mean "sets" or do you mean supplies of track, switches, 9v train motors, wheel sets and buffer beams, and perhaps track connecting wires and controllers? JB (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Derek Lim
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| | | | | | | (...) Both. I guess what I'm asking is whether the entire, current 9v train line will be continued; produced alongside the new line of trains. (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think there is a difference between TLG carrying on making and supplying parts for 9v trains and going to the trouble to design and release sets. From my own perspective, keeping me supplied with 9v train parts is 1000 times more important (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | | (...) I suppose (and it would have made more sense to check your reply before adding my other one - I'm splitting my own train of thought here) that the new IR base length makes it harder for LEGO to produce a new engine that can sell on its own (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —John Barnes
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| | | | | | (...) Agreed! I posted earlier that this 30 stud base totally wipes out all those cool Thomas and little trolley models. (Which, incidently, are amongst the most popular items we (LUCNY) run around the tracks at shows per visitor requests.) Even the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Mark Bellis
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| | | | | | | (...) Surely for a Thomas train, if you make the bogie versions, Annie or Clarabel could use the IR unit baseplate? (URL) Then Thomas could be made using BBB wheels and he could have working rods too. I think it will be possible to bury the new IR (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Tim David
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Hear, hear, those four wheeled Annie and Clarabels are a travesty created by the TV series ;-) (...) <SNIP> There (...) I think the 'with holes' one, Its backward compatible even if it doesn't look as good. Tim (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Russell Clark
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Ok, I'm a bit confused. Annie and Clarabel are SUPPOSED to be longer, 4-axle cars? Russell BayLTC (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Tim David
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, in the original books by the Rev. W Audrey they pretty were much as in the top picture in the link Mark included, with a composite (1st and 3rd class) and a brake coach (for the Guard (Conducter in US speak)and luggage). When the first (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | | | | (...) 30 studs would be very long for Annie and Clarabel - I was thinking of trying an MOT 24-stud baseplate. After all, they must have some use (other than a Palethorpe's Pork Sausage three-axle van of course). Maybe you could get away with BBB (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | | (...) When I was at Legoworld, I soon learned that if I wanted the kids to crowd around I only had to run my green and red Percy with a small matching orange wagon: (2 URLs) Salt Wagon>> Chasing the Rocket and/or Penydarren around the same track: (2 (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) LOL That's hilarious, but so true! Our Thomas at shows is a veritable kid-magnet and the reason why we devote a special section of our layout to the TtTE characters. BTW, your proto MOCs are definitely awesome! JOHN (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | (...) There's still no definite answer. LEGO might not be willing to commit themselves. Think about it - if they said they'll supply 9V track forever, they can't keep that promise. If they say they'll make it for 2 more years, there'll be uproar (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | (...) I'm no expert on the manufacturing process but I'd like to know if they have altered all the moulds for the track pieces and the clip-on motor frames. If these are completely new moulds then it shows there is a future supply potential for the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Mark Bellis
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| | | | | (...) To play devil's advocate for a moment - how is the situation different from the conversion from 4.5V to 12V? That needed conductor rails, points, crossing, motor and transformer. In cost terms, including average inflation of 3% for 16 years (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Niels Karsdorp
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| | | | | | (...) In the past 4.5V trains could have short baseplates with a 4 or 6 wheeled motor only. The now IR trains can only have 8 wheels and only a 30 stud long baseplate. In the past even 12V trains could be converted to 4.5V. Now not all 9V trains can (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | | | (...) Moving from 4.5v to 12v had 'added value' in providing better control, many new features such as electric points, crossings etc. but more than anything else, it was the new expanding range which provided the most promise. If there is no 'new (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Mathew Clayson
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| | | | | (...) I did, I started out with 4.5v, and moved to 9v when it came out. What I don't understand is the decision to produce a $100+ set whith this new technology, as a first kit. I thought the whole point was to produce a $50 set to get into the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | | | | (...) But moving to 9v from 4.5v gave you significant advantages and was an upgrade which added value. The new trains are already good - remote control, sound, cheap track, reverse loop capabilities, cab control etc. so the change to 9v rail powered (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | "Mathew Clayson" <mathew_impact1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Isw0Dr.1qw0@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) I agree completely. LEGO could (should?) take a lesson from the Brio/Thomas market. The reason it is successful is because (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Mathew Clayson
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| | | | | | Mike Walsh posted a link on the ILTCO list which has a much cleaner image. (URL) It appears that the dummy engine on the ICE train is 6 studs shorter then the working engine. They used a lt grey curved slope to fill in a gap. A small detail I hadn't (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany) —Volker Draschka
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| | | | Hello (...) Jan Beyer said at the 1000steine-event, that they had to use new moulds for every type of rails, for they want that the new and old ones to fit together. They had to make the new ones a little bit higher, so there is no difference in (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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