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Re: BBB Wheels
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Tue, 20 Apr 2004 03:00:30 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Mark Bellis wrote:
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Does anyone know when BBB wheels without flanges will be available?  I'll add to
an order from us Brits when they are.  Once I have some of those I'll do 6, 8
and 10-coupled engines.

Mark


The tool to make BBB wheels without flanges is in the works right now.  The
toolmaker I use is busy and it will be about three months before I have
unflanged wheels for sale.

On that note, is there a common term to refer to a train wheel without a flange?
Some terms I've considered include:

Blind Driver Wheel
Sans Flange Driver Wheel
Blank Driver Wheel
Unflanged Driver Wheel

Were any real trains ever made with wheels that didn't have flanges?  I've been
told it's done in the model train world often.  In either case, is there a
common term that people use for a wheel without a flange?

Kind Regards,

Ben Fleskes
Big Ben Bricks LLC



Message has 4 Replies:
  Re: BBB Wheels
 
(...) This is the prototypical term, at least in US practice, as far as I know. (...) Never heard of any of these used in US practice (...) Yes, real locomotives. I don't know of any non locomotive applications where this was necessary. I googled (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: BBB Wheels
 
(...) Yes, the first locomotives for the Hollandsche IJzeren Spoorweg Maatschappij (Dutch Iron Railway Company) were 2-2-2 (1A1 in European notation). The drivers had no flanges. Source: De Breedspoor lokomotieven van de H.IJ.S.M. (The wide gauge (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: BBB Wheels
 
(...) The British standard class 9F 2-10-0 (250 built) had no flanges on the 3rd set of driving wheels and thin flanges on the 2nd and 4th sets. Two or three of these locos survive. They are widely seen as one of the best heavy freight locos in (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: BBB Wheels
 
(...) The normal one I have heard (& read) about them being called is blind drivers. Certanly more than just the 9F Starship had blind drivers- at least one british 0-4-4 had a blind trailing axle too...figure that one out. CPR 2-8-0's that were (...) (20 years ago, 25-Apr-04, to lugnet.trains)

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  Re: BBB Wheels
 
(...) I like the steamers. The connecting rods will be a challenge. You could do with BBB blanks for the middle driving wheels. Having done quite a few British trains (pics at (URL) ), I'm branching out into American trains now, and plan to build a (...) (20 years ago, 18-Apr-04, to lugnet.trains)

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