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Re: New poster by Larry Pieniazek/MTW
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:53:59 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke wrote:

This is indeed a great Poster Jeroen and Larry!

The credit all goes to Jeroen, all I did was kvetch about how he had stuff
placed from the sidelines. :-)

Na... (nice try, though). It's a 6 wide model that just happens to overhang its
carrier car. Completely prototypical for something to do that. US harvesters
tend to run a bit bigger than Euro ones, although technically they don't
actually need two cars to carry them, that's a bit of selective compression.

Hi Larry,

I do not want to split hairs, but a - more or less - 10wide combine on a 6-wide
car?! That would mean a 5 meters combine on a 3 meters train car. Are American
combines that big?! Ok, the main body might measure only 8 wide and that might
fit....

Yes it does, and at somewhat of a faster rate  (24:8, then 24:16 for a total
speed up of 4.5 to 1) than the wheels, but in the same direction. I did this in
one of the very first models I ever posted about too:

http://my.voyager.net/~lar/slush_list5.html (see the harvesters section)...

Very cool - I am not sure if I ever have visited that side. If so, it is quite
long ago till I did...

You could theoretically do a different head and as long as you matched the gear
position and pin position it would all work.

Yeah - for e.g. a corn head would be nice.

http://www.fgltc.org/events/003/pi171.jpg
Cool. That one reminds me of the Designer set combine. I can't possibly imagine
taking stuff that old outside though!

Speaking of combines, I've always liked that older gray one of yours... (I can't
lay my finger on it at the momemt but I know you did one once) US antiques look
similar.

Certainly you are speaking of this one - a "Claas Europe" (not more than 2 years
old - from the beginning of my 7-wide carieer):
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11093

Did you know the very first combines were actually horse drawn? Self
propelled combines are relatively new innovations.

Yes, I remember seeing pictures with up to 50 (or even 100?) horses in front of
an old combine design. All needed power for cutting and harvesting the grain
came from pulling the wheels over the ground. Nearly unbelievable, it has been
easier to have 50 (or 100?) horses on your farm instead of the needed amount of
workers to do the cutting and harvesting on your fields....

I think the horses might have eaten 75% of the grain that got won during harvest
time later over the winter.....

Still these pictures - as I remember thenm - are very impressing; even if I have
not found any via google right now.

Leg Godt!

Ben
(Whose parents are still farmers and whose brother is owning still a "little"(*)
Claas Dominator with a cutting width of 3.60 meters.


* the 3.60 are small for most professional conmbine harvestors nowadays (even in
Europe), but are not, for a private owned one on a mid-sized farm in Germany. I
do still remember "our" first huge red combine from Internatinal McCormick with
2.60 meters cutting width (similar to the Claas of my LEGO® model...)



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: New poster by Larry Pieniazek/MTW
 
(...) After a second trial google came up with these links with up to 38 horses: (URL) (16 horses) (URL) (33 horses) (URL) (33 horses again) (URL) (38 horses) Leg Godt! Ben (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains)
  Combines and loads (was Re: New poster by Larry Pieniazek/MTW
 
(...) That's OK... I love splitting hairs! (...) Rather LESS! :-) The combine body, when loaded on the drop center flat has to fit through the same tunnel on my layout that my previous MTW-1004 Transformer on Drop Center model has to fit through. So (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains)

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  Re: New poster by Larry Pieniazek/MTW
 
(...) The credit all goes to Jeroen, all I did was kvetch about how he had stuff placed from the sidelines. :-) (...) Na... (nice try, though). It's a 6 wide model that just happens to overhang its carrier car. Completely prototypical for something (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains)

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