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Re: My opinion on Train Marketing
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Date: 
Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:25:52 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera writes:

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> Perhaps Trains (in general) are not of this generation.

Actually, I think that they were not of *my* generation.  With the advent of
TtTE about 15 years ago, I believe we are actually seeing a renaissance in
train interest.

<snip>

> Times have changed and unless TRAINS finds a way back it will forever be where
> it is at now: An old-man's toy.

Young kids are growing up with the wooden Thomas cars and videos.  You couldn't
ask for a better foundation on which to build a renewed interest in trains.

<...>

> But even this type of set would still run in the $80+ price point.
> A motor is ~$30, a speed reg another ~30, 1 box of track and pieces ~20-30
> So the lowest would be ~80.  Still too much and is this not what the blue
> train is at?  That IMO is a go starter set for a kid.  Big train, lots of
> minifigs, and everything else you need.  The two new sets that came out this
> year (The TARGET and TRU exclusives) ARE NOT good sets.
> 
> 1) The price point is OUT OF THIS WORLD!

Agreed.  A retail starter set should hit the magical number of $89.99.  But for
a little perspective-- have you checked the prices of Brio lately? "Moon
river!" ;-)

TLC should have 1 starter passenger train set and 1 freight train set at this
price point (even if they need to be a type of "loss-leader" as the buckets
are), and then accessorize like crazy.

And why TLC hasn't come out with a Christmas train starter set is beyond me!
<memo to self: talk to Brad at BW about a Christmas train starter set>  And
then add collectible cars each year!  This is a tried and proven strategy in
model railroading.  How many of you would run a Christmas train around your
trees that pulled collectible cars from previous years-- admit it, you *all*
would! :-)  Even I, a devout alternative width advocate would do it-- because
of its *collectibility* quality.  Heck, I buy the Lionel Hallmark train
ornaments every year, and those babies aren't exactly cheap-- about $40 if you
include loco and tender.  And this year they added a passenger car, so make
that $60, and that's assuming you purchase them in their release year.  The
first loco in the series MIB now *starts* around $70 alone....

Where are any new examples of lessons learned from the wildly successful Sante
Fe limited edition run??

I guess my point is that there are a lot of marketing strategies that TLC could
and should be working on to bolster their train theme.  What it will take is a
commitment from Billund that says "okay, we are going to produce a full train
line" and from there develop a *comprehensive* strategy instead of what is
happening now: LD keeping the trains theme alive via CPR.  Let's see an
investment into purchasing a ventilator and get this theme *off* of life
support and get it healthy and growing!


JOHN



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(...) Perhaps Trains (in general) are not of this generation. I remember that I loved to see trains running while I was a little kid. I also loved to go to the aracde and spent a whole dollar on acrade machines. But then the "dark ages" came... No (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-02, to lugnet.trains)

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