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Here are some pictures to my new Shay #5 Shay #5 is modeled after Shay #5 at Cass Scenic Railroad, Cass West Virginia She is one of the oldest running shay engines, and still carries tourist half way up a mountain. I got to see her in person, did (...) (22 years ago, 9-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.announce.moc) !!
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| | Re: Shay #5
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(...) Very cool to have ridden the real thing. later, James Mathis (22 years ago, 9-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Wonderful MOC, Lewis-- great attention to details! As I was pouring over your pics, it struck me that you have cleverly built past minifig scale to around 1:29. Though you are 8 wide, Shays were a little over 9 feet wide. Also, Shays ran on (...) (22 years ago, 9-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) You are correct, i really don't try to achieve "minfig scale" with just about any trains i build. I try to keep the train in scale with itself. This usually means using the wheels as my constant and working from there. (i am sure many of you (...) (22 years ago, 10-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: Shay #5
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(...) I think you meant 36", as 30" would be On2-1/2... (and is, I believe, what use of N gauge track in HO scale is called, HOn2-1/2) see: (URL) for more info on HOn2 1/2 or HOn30 as it it sometimes called) (22 years ago, 10-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Nope. See: (URL) (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) hehe scale is a fun thing:-) (...) Now technically speaking (no pun intended), to use regular LEGO track gauge as narrow gauge (say 30"), you'd have to assume a technic fig to be 5 feet high and you'd actually have to build 18 wide to achieve (...) (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) while we're nitpicking, c /pouring/poring/ (1) (...) You need to read what you cite more carefully before you decide you should cite from it, because it pretty clearly says that what was once known as On2-1/2, and is NOW On30 is 30". Hence (...) (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) One quibble on the above statement: Shays were also used on standard gauge, in fact, many of the larger shays ran on standard gauge. The Cass Scenic Railway is standard gauge. Frank (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I stand corrected. The shays at Cass are indeed standard guage. (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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Hey that's really nice, I like the details. Eric (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Ah, well, you lost me. I never said anything about 36"; the "3" in On3 is short for 30"... Actually, I was shooting from the hip in my initial post-- I just found that link after your post-- weren't you blathering something about HOn3? :-) (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I thought that when numbers like this were used for narrow gauge they were in reference to the gauge of the rails in feet? As in On3 for 3 feet or 36" gauge while On2&1/2 was two and a half feet or 30" gauge. I've also heard of On2, but never (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Scales and Gauges (was Shay #5
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(...) No, John. If you'd pay attention you'd learn something. The 3 means 3 FEET or 36 inches. NOT 30. This would be the third or fourth time you've been told that, and not just by me either (Jeff C is exactly correct). (...) And subsequent ones... (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: Scales and Gauges (was Shay #5
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> Okay, okay. I was wrong thinking 0n3 meant 30" (dropping the "0"), but what fouled me up was your initial incorrect correction: Me: sort of like the popular scale On3, where you'd model in O scale (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: Scales and Gauges (was Shay #5
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) 3 (...) Now I'm nitpicking :-).... there is one good fit for 3 feet, which is TTN3 using the Brit scale for TT of 3mm to the foot: N gauge 9mm track fits perfectly. I used to build Isle of Man Railway to (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: Scales and Gauges (was Shay #5
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G uses O, O uses HO, and HO uses N, (...) gauge). G uses what? G in this context is of metre gauge anyway...gauge 1 uses O (SM32), but not for 3' gauge. G is #3 scale, on #1 scale track (or 1/2" to the foot on 1.75" gauge...)-at least, that is what (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: Scales and Gauges (was Shay #5
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(...) Noted and apology accepted. However for ME to know what you're talking about, it's first required for YOU to know what you're talking about. And that's a leap of faith I am not prepared to take without some supporting evidence. :-) (1) Next (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, yes, saying merely "G" certainly opens up a can of worms since, as you mentioned, many scales utilize gauge 1 track. Scaling at 1:24 would simulate 30" I believe. But your point illustrates that, while there is much precision among some (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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