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Re: 8 Wide verses 6 Wide Super Chief Comparison
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Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:09:52 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
> > Well, my 10020s arrived yesterday, and so I built one using a 9 volt
> > motor, and kit-bashed the other 2 to modify my Super Chief MOC. Here
> > are a few pics of the 2 together for comparison in my Super Chief
> > folder:
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=185
> >
> > What I noticed most is that when you look at the 10020 by itself, it
> > looks pretty "correct". Only when you put it up to an 8 wide version
> > does its "toyishness" really come through. Which is okay, of course,
> > because it *is* a toy:-)
> >
> > I would never say that mine is better, just different in a more
> > prototypical kind of way:-)
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> Less prototypical :-)... BEAUTIFUL, but less prototypical.
*Less*? It may have shortcomings, but *comparatively* speaking, I'd say more
in a NYM.
> While the way your tankage/skirting came out is just great, way way better
> than LDs, when I look at the rest of the engine I can't help but thinking
> it's too squarish.
Yes, unfortunately, we 8 widers got shafted when it came to TLC curve
production. The smallest half round fits into the next size, but there is a
gap from that size to the largest half round. *That* is our missing link to
create truly proto curves for 8 wide.
What's really interesting is that when looking at the 10020 in my comparison
pic, it has the *perfect* shape of the F7, *when you exclude the windshield and
all above*. If one were to cut all of that off and place windshield in the
remaining space, it would be right on. Of course, the scale will have changed
in the process-- probably around "S" scale (between HO and O). MFs would be
too large and the LEGO track gauge would be *way* too wide, but the *shape* of
the unit would be just right...
> The nose curvature (from the front and from the top), the
> roof curvature, all suffer from the extra flatness induced by the extra two
> studs.
I could (and still might on further iterations) raise it a plate, which would
help out that situation. The color scheme played a role in flattening out the
nose (as did electrification). J-1 did a great monochrome nose study; maybe
he'll take some pics and post it.
> It's a beautiful model but it looks more like an ALCO FA to me than an EMD
> F. But that's OK. FAs are nice machines. Almost as nice as PAs.
I think I'll try some other roads and play with the F7s design a bit. Because
of the coloration stripe on the side of the Super Chief loco, the venting
across the top sides is only 1 brick high when clearly it should be more.
Without constraints such as coloration, I should be able to make an even more
proto version.
-John
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| (...) Go for NYC lightning stripe (two tone grey)! Or PRR tuscan red with multiple gold pinstripes. or SR cream and forest green... wait, those will all be harder. :-) Maybe you should do PC black. That one isn't too hard. Or even Santa Fe freight (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) Less prototypical :-)... BEAUTIFUL, but less prototypical. While the way your tankage/skirting came out is just great, way way better than LDs, when I look at the rest of the engine I can't help but thinking it's too squarish. The nose (...) (23 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains)
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