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  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) I think Larry summed it up nicely. Little kids want to follow the train where ever it goes, so line-of-sight and very short range would be just fine. Remote control from one spot is more of an adult appeal thing and only becomes necessary when (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Retailers stock fan-created designs? (was: Re: All plastic track)
 
(...) <snip> (...) Really? Lots of questions for you about this: Are you saying that big buyers like Target and Wal*mart might be able to stock fan-created designs? Would TLG present them with a selection of fan-created sets from which to choose, or (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) How about Finescale L and Coarsescale L gauges :) Seriously tho I think L-gauge would be suitable for both, it only refers the track gauge, not the scale, and as they are the same... Tim (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Hey, they're expensive for me, £12 ish a pack! Tim (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Not a big IR fan either but one thing to consider about controllability is that perhaps this system will be more like a walkaround throttle than a wired one, that is, in many IR systems, you press the go button and the vehicle goes. Take your (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Actually, that's a very good point. I was using L Gauge to refer to anything that uses the track gauge (distance between rails, obviously) currently used for both the Play and Hobby trains. But I don't pretend to think that I should be (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee wrote: snip snip (...) Just to clarify Jake, will you be referring to both (Play and Hobby) as L gauge? That would make sense to me as they are all the same gauge. But it might confuse "real" train modellers - when we (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Personally I think the play train is a fantastic idea. It will be a great way to lower cost while providing opportunities for new parts, ideas and a new younger audience. Now some of you are worried about the death of the 9volt train set but (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
Jake- I haven't quite figured out why I am more concerned about the recent track announcements than most other LTC types I have spoken with. Certainly there's not much anxiety with SCLTC (and even some enthusiasm) as I check in with members. (That (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Sorry, not trying to be dense, I swear. :) Now, to be sure I understand... when you say "metal rail sets", are you referring LEGO Train sets (the big boxes) that include the metal rails AND a model all in one box? Sets like the High Speed or (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Actually, this may be the best thing in years for retailers. We're looking at ways that they'd be able to easily get sets from consumer creators like you, if they like your design. Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Team (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Mike- My experience buying LEGO started only goes back 15 years. The Target buy occurred during the transition from 4.5/12V to the 9 volt system when I got 100 boxes of old track for $0.50 each. I haven't found any great Target deals at all in (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) I heard you the first time. I wish you would hear us. It "appears" that the metal rail sets are at an end. I don't know how I feel about that yet. I listened very carefully when you said that the track will still be available for many years, (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Bryan- Right. I hope (and expect) LEGO Factory to be extremely successful. It's looks like a win-win for TLC and many LEGO builders (not so good for retailers and resellers). Clearly LEGO Factory will be as useful to train builders as to any (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Again, we're not "moving away" from metal rails. Metal rails will continue on into the future. Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Team (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) I would think that it is the market that TLG is/was trying to target (primarily 7 year olds - think 4561 - through tweens), not Train Hobbyists. $100+ is still a fairly large investment for some parents to make on present that potentially will (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Lego Train Factory - "preliminary wagon design"
 
In Jake's notes, (URL) mentions a "preliminary wagon design" slide. Does anyone have a screen capture of this? Bryan (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) When you say "prohibitively expensive", it's important to put it in context. If you're talking about a 5 year old getting into trains for the first time, metal rails are certainly expensive. If you're talking about a Hobby Train, then that's a (...) (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) OK, here's two I was *dying* to ask at BrickFest, but didn't want to take time away from the more "serious" questioners (i.e. - I'm not first & formost a train type). (1) What is the battery life goal? (2) Is the IR system potential compatable (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Ahhh ok I get what you're saying. Strange thing is, I did think to myself - what if Ted is actually referring to the individual 9V components themselves? -Bryan (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Joe- I wrote that TLC announced that it is "focusing" on a new "play train" system that will be widely available and that the 9V "hobby train" will be relegated to lego.com and S@H sources, My "observations" were based on what what was said (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
"Ted Michon" <ted@scltc.org> wrote in message news:ILC8Hw.1nKw@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) TRU, or (...) presumably (...) was (...) trains (...) stuff at (...) (like (...) I suspect your $1k for $50 Target deal is one of the key (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Joe- Most of the train stuff we have ever bought was on close out at Target, TRU, or the tent sale at LLCA. And the best deals we've gotten from BrickLink presumably originated from retails stores, not LEGO brand stores. Our best deal ever was (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Bryan- Ah, we are not quite communicating., I'm saying nothing good is happening with 9V train components, the stuff that handles 9VDC that makes the "hobby train" system as opposed to the "play train" system. Specifically, I mean motors, (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) First, to be completely clear about a very very important distinction - we're not "switching", we're "including". Plastic rails will not kill the metal rails. Metal rails will continue into the future. We are working on production process that (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)  
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) I don't see how that's much different from the current situation, though. I have never seen a LEGO train set at TRU or Target, where I frequently buy other LEGO. For trains, I go to a LEGO store, or (around Christmas) an independent toy store (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Ted, I'm sure all of us will agree that 9V train stuff is expensive. That means most retail stores (apart from LEGO stores and independent toy store) will avoid stocking these items except maybe during the Christmas season. So you're right in (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) I didn't attend that talk, but I did listen to it in MP3 form, and I didn't get that impression at all. I heard him say that they were introducing a new "play train" line, that would be in addition to the existing 9V and Duplo train lines. (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
In lugnet.trains, Bryan Wong wrote:> (...) Bryan- It's difficiult to buy 9V train stuff now except from S@H. With the new play train out, it will be impossible anywhere except S@H (Jake did say that track would now be a lego.com item). And I (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: All plastic track
 
(...) Ted, I think you've read into this incorrectly. From my understanding, TLC's goal is to have TWO train lines - one for "adults", and one for "young kids" (to bridge the gap between DUPLO trains and 9V). TLC has (hopefully) learned from its (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  All plastic track
 
(Sometimes I think that if TLC announced it was closing down, the first post on LUGNET or elsewhere might be something like "Oh, no! That's really terrible! I've got to have 7 more 2x6 pink plates! Can't they wait until I find some on BrickLink?") (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  NMRA/NTS-ILTCO show features on full length Satelite TV show
 
At the NMRA, Richard Einhorn, the host of "The Train Show", visited the ILTCO multiclub NMRA show during set-up and showtimes. He interviewed several members, and taped a lot of footage. The next schedule for season 3 has just been released, and it (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.mediawatch)  
 
  Re: What age gap?
 
(...) That's a good point. (And, if you're ever in the Fort Collins area, we should get our sons together; they'd probably have a great time.) (...) That's another good point! Thanks, - Joe (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Jake's keynote
 
(...) Somehow, I don't think BBB wheels will be in the parts list for LDD Trains :) and, while the representatives from the LEGO company didn't say no to loooking into track geometries, no one thought to ask about steam drivers :( Chris (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: What age gap?
 
(...) Joe, My son just turned five, and like your son, he started playing with my 9v trains when he was four. Nonetheless, I do not think our sons are typical; they both grew up in houses packed with LEGO trains. There are two ways one can interpret (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: EMD F7 Mt. Newman Mining Company
 
Hi Tim (...) Thanks for the compliments. Except for the windows as ladders, basically every snot trick applies the simple 2x5 rule. Means that two studs in width are the same as a stack of five plates. About the next creation I can't tell right now. (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: EMD F7 Mt. Newman Mining Company
 
Hi Timothy (...) Thanks for the compliments. I think quite a lot of the details can be adapted to six wide as I am not using all the space between the two side walls to realize the different shapes. What will be more difficult or impossible to adapt (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: EMD F7 Mt. Newman Mining Company
 
Hi Samarth (...) Thanks for the compliments. And yes, please feel free and use my ideas on your models as well. I even think of creating a building instruction with MLCad, as the respond to my creation is this overwhelming. But this certainly won't (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: EMD F7 Mt. Newman Mining Company
 
Hi ROSCO (...) Thanks! (...) Well, the idea with the windows is what I am most proud of on my model. I had that idea about a year ago but haven't used it in a model since then. (...) I agree, you're right about problems when attaching the couplings (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
 
  What age gap?
 
I've heard much talk lately about trying to bridge the gap between preschoolers (Duplo) and older kids (9V trains) -- for example, the new "play train" line announced this weekend. I don't see this gap, though. My son is turning 5 soon, and he loves (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)


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