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Re: Pictures of New technique: Cascaded Trinary Pneumatics (aka mid-stop)
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lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:59:54 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Mark Bellis wrote:

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> > 
> > Hi Mark, cool stuff!
> > 
> > I guess that the ganged switches on the far right are the switch stage, but I
> > don't know what the other two large blocks are, or how they work.  One thing I
> > learned early with documenting MOCs, is to never use black when there is another
> > option.  Black is so hard to photograph so that you can see anything inside the
> > borders.
> > 
> > Is the cascade stage in the lower left, and the steering stage in the upperl
> > left?
> > 
> > I think I see five switches in the lower left module, three ganged together
> > using bands, and one on each end.  I also see three switches in the upper left
> > module.  Are the switch linkages in all three modules like the one in the lower
> > right?
> > 
> > Thanks for sharing,
> > Kevin
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Yes, the bottom right stage is the control stage, with 2 active switches.  I
> left the third one in to keep the stability with the cams and 2L liftarms so
> that the 1x4 brick with holes moves as a parallelogram.
> 
> I got into the habit of trying to make models in a single colour!  It's usually
> the case that black is the colour I have most of, especially in Technic.  In
> lieu of better visibility, I used a couple of 8L axles, which each have a
> cylinder pushing on them.  They're separated by 3L liftarms with +o+ holes, with
> a 1x4 brick with holes just behind the switch levers.  The middle switch has a
> peg in the middle hole of the 1x4 brick, with the outer switches' pegs resting
> on the ends of the brick, pulled in by the belts.  The same mechanism is used in
> all 3 stages.  I found that the belts had more pulling power on the ends of #2
> axle joints than when they were lower down.
> 
> The bottom left stage is the cascade stage, with the middle 3 (2 in Evo 2)
> switches controlling itself and the outer 2 controlling the next stage.  The
> outer 2 switches are rigidly linked to the adjacent ones so that they have more
> limited movement than the centre switch, though I'm changing this for Evo 2.
> 
> The top left stage is the steering stage, which is similar but without the
> output switches.  I developed the cascade stage from this, and this in turn was
> developed from the original switch geometry, which had a control stage and 4
> switches controlling itself!  That development was when I used the cams and 2L
> liftarms so that I could get rid of the 4th switch.
> 
> Mark

Mark,
  I've tried to study the pictures, but I cannot resolve the mechanical
linkages, and/or the pneumatic hookups.  I was going to try to draw up a
schematic, but I just can't resolve the images.

  Any chances we could see a schematic, or an LDraw file of the linkages?
Kevin



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  Re: Pictures of New technique: Cascaded Trinary Pneumatics (aka mid-stop)
 
(...) I'll start a schematic next week as this week is an unusual week at work. That should cover the pneumatic circuit. Basically, each stage gets a feed from the compressor, which goes to the middles of the two switches that drive the next stage (...) (21 years ago, 17-Oct-05, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics)

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  Re: Pictures of New technique: Cascaded Trinary Pneumatics (aka mid-stop)
 
(...) Hi Kevin, Yes, the bottom right stage is the control stage, with 2 active switches. I left the third one in to keep the stability with the cams and 2L liftarms so that the 1x4 brick with holes moves as a parallelogram. I got into the habit of (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-05, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics)

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