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Re: Three new Wipeout MOCs
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Fri, 19 Sep 2003 04:09:22 GMT
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Well Alexander, let’s look at it from a technical point of view.
Your MOC uses pieces of ABS plastic made by cutting up genuine LEGO elements.
By all reasonable definitions, those pieces are no longer genuine LEGO
elements - they’re just pieces of plastic that happen to resemble genuine
LEGO elements, or even merely have remaining studs/tubes that work correctly
with genuine LEGO elements... like MegaBloks elements.
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I’ll conceede to that.
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It’s a model made partly from LEGO and partly from other ABS plastic pieces.
This means that A) somebody who can’t afford to damage their parts can’t
replicate your model, and B) it technically (and aesthetically) isn’t a
genuine LEGO creation which, like it or not, is inferior to a genuine LEGO
creation (or even a clone brick creation!), it being a lot less clever and
ingenuous than making a MOC without modifying parts.
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I have heard this argument about a thousand times, yet I have yet to see anyone
pull it off without doing what I did. I’d be more than willing to learn to be a
better Lego creator if people gave me some reasonable suggestions with regards
to methodology and construction techniques rather than just complain.
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Also, let’s take the reductionist argument for a moment. If you’re such a
stickler for accuracy, why do you tolerate LEGO studs all over the vehicles?
Surely you could cut those off too, fill in the dimples... you may as well
have kitbashed the exterior fairings with plastic plate from a hobby shop, as
Aaron suggested!
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I tend to ignore those who make insulting comments while being pitifully bad at
being subtle about it. As far as I’m concerned, your response was the only good
one I have gotten so far. For better or for worse. ;-)
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My point is, you crossed a line beyond which it’s murky to define whether
your MOC is a LEGO creation or not. If you’d stayed behind that line
(modifying elements), it would have been crystal clear. As it is, you get
the worst of both worlds - it looks much less accurate than a kitbashed
plastic model, and whose design is both technically and aesthetically
inferior to a genuine LEGO model.
I hope that clears things up.
Cheers,
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While I respect your opinion, I cannot honestly say I agree with it fully. I
will condede to your opinion that MOCs made mostly with cut-out parts aren’t
great. I agree with you there, honestly I do. But I just have a thing with
oddball shapes and designs. If it requires two or three 1 x 1 hinges or
something like that, so be it in my opinion. Now had I been sitting there,
completely reshaping and redesigning every single part I used, I’d agree with
you completely, but that wasn’t the case.
For example, when I built the engine bell for the feisar craft, 2 x 2 hinges
wouldn’t fit. Bottom line. No amount of skill could have fixed that problem.
So I cut myself a couple of 1 x 1 hinges. Call it lazy, or unimaginative, or
not clever on my part, but FYI, that was a “last ditch solution” after spending
days trying to figure out a way that wouldn’t require it. I didn’t want to
mothball the entire design, which is a good one in my opinion, just because LEGO
never bothered to make ONE part that was and is an obvious addition to the parts
that are currently available.
In this respect we’re just going to have to agree to disagree.
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Message has 1 Reply:
 | | Non-genuine LEGO MOCs (Was Re: Three new Wipeout MOCs)
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| (...) I'm disappointed that you imply that the community is at fault for not helping you. I also fail to understand how we're supposed to design our version of such a model according to your subjective criteria for "pulling it off". We'd have to use (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| (...) Well Alexander, let's look at it from a technical point of view. Your MOC uses pieces of ABS plastic made by cutting up genuine LEGO elements. By all reasonable definitions, those pieces are no longer genuine LEGO elements - they're just (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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