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Re: moonbase inprogress teaser
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Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:20:28 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
> In lugnet.space, Daniel Jassim writes:
> > > In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
> > > I really got your last name wrong? I thought that I had it right, or was
> > > that another post?
> >
> > No problemo. We all make mistakes. Dan Jansen was an Olympic Speed Skater.
> >
> > <snipped>
> >
> > > Dan, I like your capital ships, at least in terms of LUGNET Standard Capital
> > > Ships, in mine, it would be considered a large fighter, but let us not get
> > > nitpicky here, but do you not think that the one with the two large holes in
> > > the front could use some doors? I mean, I know that you are much more
> > > experienced than me in terms of building space craft but doors would
> > > definitely help in the design.
> >
> > Think so? It seems that my 6 ft long A-Wing Carrier that holds 8 A-Wing
> > fighters would be considered a capital ship by any logical standard but
> > maybe I'm wrong? I think part of what makes something a capital ship is it's
> > function as well as size. I think any carrier by default is a capital ship.
> > It needs to be big because it has to fit other ships inside (hence, it is a
> > "carrier"). That's why fighters would need to be smaller than it. So I don't
> > think it's a LUGNET "standard" of any sorts, but rather the accepted logical
> > order of comparison and definition.
> >
> > I cannot imagine a 6 ft long minifig scale fighter, but maybe I'm lacking
> > your imagination? Don't you think that would be an incredibly huge ship for
> > just one or two minifigs? Even at Technic scale, it would still be enormous.
> > Comparatively, it would be like a fighter the size of a C-5 Galaxy or 747.
> > Or are you saying you'd build a 6 ft long fighter but not at minifig or
> > Technic scale but rather more at 12" GI-Joe fig scale? Now that would make
> > sense. Or did you mean "freighter" and not "fighter?"
> >
> > As far as adding doors to Gibraltar (the ship with the "two large holes in
> > front"), unfortunately I cannot because that ship doesn't exist anymore. I
> > took it apart as well as the A-Wing Carrier. However, my ships did have
> > "doors" in a way. The "large holes" leading to and from the ship's
> > flightdeck are energy shielded, so you can't really see the doors. They're
> > invisible and they're raised and lowered in sequence like an airlock so that
> > the ship's air doesn't escape. You just have to imagine they're there, which
> > shouldn't be too hard for you. Thanks for the suggestion.
> >
> > Dan
>
> Well, my fighters, at least my larger fighters, are only around the size of
> a Deep Freeze Defender or a Galactic Mediator, which is roughly around 80 to
> 90 studs long, almost long enough to be considered a capital ship in LUGNET
> terms.
>
> Also, the ship that I had built was a destroyer that could convert into a
> small space craft carrier because of the 43 ships and 6 vehicles that it
> contained on board. Also, it had VSTOL/VTOL-type thrusts that could convert
> into some powerful laser beams due to my patented DualFire (TM) technology,
> which could rain all sorts of fiery death and destruction on any enemies who
> thought that attacking the under belly of a space craft would be fun and in
> addition to that, there were 16 permanent cannons on the bottom should they
> not get the message the first time. I will explain the DualFire (TM)
> technology in another paragraph so you will know what I mean, Dan.
>
> The space craft is made at a LEGO minifig scale, as I may have implied, and,
> no I do not have any of those 12" G.I. Joe action figures laying around here
> in my house. I was one of those children who grew up actually watching G.I.
> Joe on television and by that time, they were only 3" or 4" tall. However,
> now, you can get both sizes and imposter G.I. Joe figures as well, also in
> both sizes, but that is another matter entirely now, Dan.
>
> As for my crew, at even a skeleton crew, I have at least 20 little LEGO
> minifigs on board and 5 to handle the main control room. I could have room
> up to 84 people, including prisoners if I had the money to purchase more
> LEGO sets online but I have spent three weeks visiting 28 places looking for
> a job where I live so I could afford these LEGO sets. (If you know where
> the "M" cap is in that Pepsi "Cool Million" game, please let me know.)
>
> To answer you about the ship having to be big in order to have room for all
> of those smaller fighter craft, I never argued about it in the first place.
> Anyone can see that carrier space craft have to be relatively huge in order
> to carry all of those little fighter craft or else they would be packed in
> there like sardines, break apart, and all you would have left is a broken
> heap of LEGO space junk.
>
> As to answer your response about the logical order of comparison and
> definition versus a set LUGNET standard, I am mistaken. The standards that
> I compared were standards set by The Galactic Shipyard, which 99% of all
> LUGNET Space people accept, and my standards, but to me, it is like standard
> measures and metric measures. Standard and metric measures are both unique
> ways in order to measures things in life but both are comparable to each
> other and can be converted to one unit of measurement or the other unit of
> measurement. It is like having a Spanish-English dictionary. There are
> things which are almost identical and sometimes identical in both languages
> but more often than not, you have to convert the Spanish language into
> English or vice versa. This is the same logic between LUGNET and Galactic
> Shipyard Standards and the Long Standards.
>
> The doors thing sounded nice and I apologize for not being able to remember
> the name of the vessel. (I am looking for a job quite often now, so I can
> not remember to do everything in life. I happen to forget a few things in
> my life because my life, as of late, has been rather busy and it will
> probably become even worse in my life.) For the doors, should you not have
> adapted that technolgy to them, I would have gone with adding 2 or 3 of
> those three sided windows that, when put together with another one of the
> same dimensions, make an octagon. The colors would not matter, however, but
> translucent dark green, translucent blue, or translucent neon yellow green
> would have been nice, Dan.
>
> I feel sorry that the Gibralter and A-Wing Carrier do not exist anymore
> because they were nice designed vessels. I also apologize for writing so
> much but I will be gone on vacation soon so it is necessary, Dan.
>
> Jesse Long
Steve, if you really want to know what is going on in here, at least do me
the favor and read the post before mine, okay? The world, and particularly
the LUGNET world, will do a lot better without a bunch of know-it-alls with
bad attitudes like yourself.
Anyway, I had made a mistake in my last letter and Dan was nice enough to
point it out to me. Dan was also confused about what type of scale that my
space craft was going to be and believe me, it is very hard to give an
accurate description of a space craft when your brother hogs the computer
all day long and you are strapped for cash and you only have 20,000 LEGO
pieces in your entire collection. You also obviously do not understand that
I have been trying to get a job so maybe I CAN become a great LUGNET Space
builder but if you had your way about it, no one new would EVER join LUGNET
Space, especially people with innovation such as myself.
Dan also informed me that the vessel that I was questioning had doors but
they were invisible. I had suggested a door design but he had informed me
that he had doors already on his space craft, the Gibraltar, if I am not
mistaken. (It is quite a nice vessel in terms of a GS&L Standard Capital Ship.)
I was also confused about standards for ship sizes, since I have slighly
different standards about different sized vessels than The Galactic Shipyard
and most of LUGNET. A person should be allowed to be different, should they
not, Steve?
If there is anything that I have done wrong, it was to speak off topic
because of my intentions to help another Dan, Dan Mattia, with his website,
to build new vessels and other space craft for him. Of course, I also got
confused about the exact words that he said to me since I was hunting for
jobs that day, if I am not mistaken, Steve.
Please take the time to think on this, Steve, and do not make a hasty
decision about me.
Jesse Long
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