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RE: lack of interest in basic stamp and basicx
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lugnet.robotics
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Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:40:15 GMT
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> In lugnet.robotics, Graham Stalker-Wilde writes:
> > I can't speak about LegOS, but I thought this about FORTH too, and it aint so.
> > Once you get over the syntax it's a straightforward procedural language.
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> Yes, I agree with you, mostly. I have been programming in Forth before, and it
> slowly comes back. What I meant to say is that the stack oriented architecture
> is different than C, for example, and (for me, at least) a mental switch is
> needed in order to 'think Forth'. Maybe it will be easier in time...
It's funny, but a lot of what you need to do to write good Forth is
done for you under the hood by C compilers. The wierd thing is
that a C compiler intermingles data and return values on one stack
while Forth separates them.
> As for the ease of use, it doesn't seem much faster to work with, considering
> the time needed to download the firmware and a larger application file... It is
> faster for very incremental development, but I feel safer when I have a file
> where everything is neatly saved...
Now that Sergey has a SAVE-IMAGE which sends an SREC file of the image and
Dave Baum is working on a 4x firmware uploader, the edvelopment time is
MUCH faster.
I'll be getting Sergey's additions worked into the code base soon, with the
usual whine about real work, and external factors, yada yada yada...
Cheers,
Ralph Hempel - P.Eng
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| (...) I agree that Forth is better than many other languages in many ways. What I was saying was that it has a different look-and-feel and one needs to get used to it first. Plus that it is not very easy to switch from for example C to Forth and (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) Yes, I agree with you, mostly. I have been programming in Forth before, and it slowly comes back. What I meant to say is that the stack oriented architecture is different than C, for example, and (for me, at least) a mental switch is needed in (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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