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    Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Steve Hassenplug
   (...) pieces". It would mean a big culture change. ... (...) I'm very interested to know the public opinion on this. Many people in the LEGO community are "LEGO Purists". If LEGO did give a company or product a "LEGO Approved" stamp, would you use (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —danny staple
      I suppose it is a question of availability. Many mindstorms only contests are about giving all teams the same constraints, and getting them to perform within them. If a custom sensor is readily available off the shelf from known suppliers, and all (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Chris Magno
     Steve Hassenplug wrote: > > Would such parts be "legal" in "Mindstorms Only" contests? > > If not, what's required to make them legal? > > Steve > This is a very difficult question to answer. The current base rule set for the rtlToronto robot games (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Steve Hassenplug
     (...) I know. (...) Right. For C$ (connect four competition) I bought a handful of cybermaster touch sensors off the web, because I couldn't use a touch-sensor-multiplexer that I have, because it was not sold by LEGO. (...) So, exactly what IS (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         "official Lego" —Bruce Boyes
      (...) I guess this is an important issue for contests, so that someone with infinite $$$ doesn't automatically win. But in all other cases, who cares? I will probably take some flak for this, but it's like the AI battles of top down vs bottom up. (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Chris Magno
     Steve Hassenplug wrote: > >> The counter argument to all that, is those rare lego parts, or country >> specific ones that are not easily obtained. Hypothetically, what is the >> difference between me (being in Canada) getting cybermaster touch >> (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Brian Davis
     (...) I'm not sure about that. Rob's trick is great - I've used it myself, and probably will again (I tend toward the end of "purist", although I confess some of this may not be high moral standards, but laziness). But I would say that solution is (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Steve Hassenplug
     (...) Yes, this is a quirky little requirement. Common "LEGO Only" rules allow sensors that stopped being produced several years ago, and were only sold in England. Or gears that haven't been produced for over 20 years. But they don't allow brand (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Brad
     (...) If the intent of "official" or "legal" parts lists is to level the playing field, so that it's the skill of the builder, rather than the list of parts, that wins the contest, then a simple declaration by the contest organizers would seem to be (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —dan miller
     <rant> This is all completely doable. Look how Botball mixes lego and other parts: https://botballstore...c399f4f4fc they choose suppliers; they provide lists of what is legal. It's like any other competition; you may need a judgement call here or (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —Jordan Bradford
     (...) Since Pitsco sells the (URL) to DCP adaptor>, isn't that already a LEGO-approved product? DCP's sensors are expensive, but they must have enough educational sales to keep them on the market. (URL) pH> (URL) Humidity> (URL) Position (...) (19 years ago, 2-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
   
        Re: Custom Sensor poll (Re: Mindstorms on Slashdot) —David Schilling
   (...) Here's a related question. Suppose LEGO eventually does come out with a new Mindstorms product, and it's 100's of times better than the current system. Would you allow the new system in a LEGO/Mindstorms only competition? Why or why not? How (...) (19 years ago, 3-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)
 

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