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Re: Robolab appreciation and questions
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Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:03:24 GMT
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Hi Bill,

You wrote:


Hello Claude,

Like Jerry, I am very impressed with your Robolab Web site.

Thank You also for the pointers to the Tufts docmentation area.

My son and I have been working with Robolab 2.5 for several months and
like what it can do. I recommend it to the students in our after-school
Robotics course.
So do my son and myself. The web-site, however, is the result of three (!!)
years of hard, but interesting work with secundary students.

I have a couple of questions:

You mention an updated version 2.5.1. What and where can we
download this version ?? I notice that some of the patches refer to this
specific version.
I have got version 2.5.0. from our school-supplier technik-lpe (Germany) .
You'll find the link at our link-area, but it is Europe! I'm not sure if you
can get the 2.5.1. version. A downloadable update would be pretty good.

In the regular Lego Robolab Web site I see very little of this
type of detail on bugs, problems, etc. Are there other Web sites that
track this information besides the really good Tufts site ??

I don't think there is another good advanced Robolab site.


Also has Ask the Expert been stopped working on the Robolab Web
site ?? The Web site pointer brings errors to my browser.

So does my browser. The RCX-community is a bit too rapid for the
developpers, isn't it.

Are you leaving Robolab for Java version of LegOS ?? Any reasons
??

I will not abandon Robolab, because of its marvelous didactical facilities.
When we first faced Robolab 1.5. and later 2.0. we hesitated, because of the
numerous limits. But now as it is nearly open-sourced, I think non-graphical
stuff can't beat it anymore. See, what complicated things we produced. And
you never loose survey of what you are actually doing. And MOST IMPORTANT:
you may explain easily to students and beginners.

With few of the best students we tried to learn legOS, PBForth, nqc,
LEGO-script, our own LeRobot, but nothing better than this Robolab. Even the
integer-number limits may be overcome with some astute.

However we will try lejOS for a longer period: first to support Brian
Bagnall and his collegues who did a great job. What makes lejOS so
attractive are the mathematical possibilities, speed and better organization
of memory. For didactical reasons, it is a good idea to teach JAVA on a
small limited computer like the RCX. And above all: LejOS seems to be a well
equilibrated software, easy to be trained.



Thank You again for the good work!

Bill


Thanks for your encouragement.

Best regards,

Claude Baumann

-----Original Message-----
From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com] On Behalf
Of Claude Baumann
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:26 AM
To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com
Subject: Re: RoboSoccer


In lugnet.robotics, Jerry Kalpin writes:
Claude, I am so impressed!  I have Robolab 2.5 that I use at a
relatively primitive level.  Your website is full of examples at a very

advanced level. I have spent a lot of time looking for Robolab
reference material with poor success.  You recommend, on your site:
Labview for everyone Graphical Programming Made Even Easier by Lisa K.
Wells and Jeffrey Travis, USA, 1997. Could you tell me if the 1997
edition matches Robolab 2.5? I see there is a more recent edition
available.

Great work!

Jerry

Hi Jerry, thanks for the encouragement. The book Graphical Programming
etc. does not know Robolab at all. It is a perfect introduction to
Labview (behind Robolab). The book is expensive.

But I've got better news: tufts university maintains now a patch- and
documentation web-site for Robolab, especially 2.5. which has some minor
bugs. AND there is a very detailled user-guide that you can download.

http://www.ceeo.tufts.edu/robolabatceeo/index.htm

Best regards

Claude
--
Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics




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