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Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
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lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people
Date: 
Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:25:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Erik Olson writes:

<he's OK> Yaay. But our hearts surely go out to those who are not.

The major news sites are doing better at handling load than during 911 but
just in case people can't get to them, here's a short summary from the CNN
site, posted without permission, as of about 10:56 AM EST

American Airlines Flight 587 crashes on takeoff in NYC borough of Queens
FAA: Airbus A300 from JFK airport to Santa Domingo, Dominican Republic
NYC Port Authority: 246 passengers, 9 crew
Firefighter reports engine fell from plane, others report explosion
NYC Mayor Giuliani says two crash sites; 12 buildings affected
All NYC area airports closed, bridges and tunnels leading into city closed
New York Fire Department dispatches 44 trucks, 200 firefighters
The Pentagon said surveillance flights in the area; no unusual activity reported
American Airlines information number: 1-800-245-0999

   Not much more to report now--except to note that the engine-
   falling-off-the-airliner thing has at least a half dozen
   precedents, and the most famous one I can think of involved
   the plane continuing on safely (!!).

   Another link:

   http://www.aviation-safety.net/news/news2001-3.shtml

   However, the ground
   crews and maintenance are the other "weak link" as regards
   screening and care alike (they're paid rather badly, save
   the extremely skilled chiefs, IIRC), so either way this ought
   to prompt further changes and review of procedures.

   This can't help American's fortunes, either.  They also had
   a load of crew passes and even uniforms vanish before 9/11--
   what ever came of *that* discovery, anyways?

   best

   LFB (who is most emphatically not flying home for Thanksgiving!)



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  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) reported (...) Indeed, these days the engine fuse pin is designed to release the engine when any unexpected substantial forces are applied to the engine, rather than transfer the forces to the wing, which may result in wing failure. Even a (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) Uh, I am unsure about this, but an expert has said on national television that this is *supposed* to happen in some cases. He did not specify, however. Probably this plane was unable to maneouver due to the low speed and altitude, much like (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Erik Olson writes: <he's OK> Yaay. But our hearts surely go out to those who are not. The major news sites are doing better at handling load than during 911 but just in case people can't get to them, here's a short (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)

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