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| (...) Oh, you mean like "let's all join NELUG even though we have no interest in it and don't live anywhere near the US NE, so that we can disrupt the consensus the membership arrived at and change things to suit our opinions of how things ought to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| Hey James, Thanks for a fabulous sum-up. (...) This is a good line of reasoning - I hope NELUG takes that in mind. (...) Definitely. Too bad many people rushed into the debate hot-headed - I personally steered away for the first few hours because I (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Heh. I've discounted so many options in the past 12 hours, I'm afraid you'll have to remind me which two you're talking about. However, I am always open for meaningful, productive discussion (within some boundaries). Let me know what you mean (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) But when we say we will discuss it at a meeting, you say we are attempting to stop people from talking about it. I really can't understand what it is you're trying to say. I am trying very hard because, believe it or not, I do want to. But you (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Ok, either I read something into the discussion that wasn't there, or I picked up on someone elses misreading. I just hope our organization gets to the point where we can make some public displays. Frank (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) treatment, (...) being (...) But isn't it unfair to keep someone out, who most every one agrees is a mature person just so in the future we don't have to "deal" with the issue later? Shiri should be judged by her merits as a person alone, and (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Because 'judging' people on a case-by-case basis is not only unequal treatment, but it is open to abuse. Perhaps NELUG will consider another system, but until they do have their meeting, your question can only be rhetorical. If any LUG started (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) your (...) do (...) The last time I checked a dictionary, the definition of exclutionary was something or some one that excludes something from its boundaries or grouping. I'm not saying anyone is arrogant. I actually respect NELUG's right to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) If I were him, I wouldn't want to discuss it in this forum either. We've already seen the results of that with people's responses to Matt Miller. The responses ranged from incredulous to abusive, but nobody seemed willing to try to listen and (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) When people start responding to NELUG in the way that they have - calling the group 'exclusionary', 'arrogant jerks', and all of the other insults that have been flung at the group - how could he *not* feel attacked? (...) That's easy, and (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Fine, that is NELUGs right, which I support btw. (...) I'm not arrogant enough to suggest that my opinion should matter to you, but I am interested in hearing yours. You've discounted two positive suggestions, both of which sounded reasonable (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) In other words, she's saying that the people who are currently in the group and who like it as it is should go and form their own group, and the current group changes. I think that's a bit backwards, personally. (...) Well, I wouldn't. Not (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Hmm, is that what Tamy was suggesting? I thought she was suggesting that NELUG lower its age range from 18+ to 16+ (or whatever, maybe even abolishing the age limitation completely) and that adults start a new group (either separate or as a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| In lugnet.org.us, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> (...) Perhaps about 200 posts less than you have now!:-) Jude I am sorry, I couldn't help it. <grin> (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) It's interesting to note that the age range of the people attending the first two meetings was, IIRC, approximately 22 to 34. I think this may have had a lot to do with the way things got rolling initially. I can only wonder where things would (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| In lugnet.org.us, Shiri Dori writes: <snip - anyone who hasn't noticed the debate is under a rock or not on-line> FWIW: I agree with Shiri's (and others, apparantly) opinion that an age cut-off is unnecessary for a club aimed at Lego enthusiasts. My (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug) !
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| (...) <snip> I will stress again, however, that the opinions of non-NELUG members (...) nor (...) Ok. Let's go back to the original poster. SHE, (not you, or anyone else) solicited the opinions of others. I by no means meant to actually solicit your (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) explaining the (...) I am also a NELUG member, (have been from around the time the club started), and although I have yet been able to attend a meeting (I work a strange schedule) I will most definatly be attending the next one (even if I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) As a NELUG member, I'd love to hear stories/experiences specificially from 16-17 year olds (or 18-year-olds if you were once 16-17 as part of a LUG) who are members of other LUGs in the U.S....this might help me form a more solid opinion if (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.baylug, lugnet.org.us.dixielug, lugnet.org.us.gmlug, lugnet.org.us.lugola, lugnet.org.us.nclug, lugnet.org.us.nelug, lugnet.org.us.wafol, lugnet.org.us.wamalug) !
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| (...) I have never met either Craigo or Shiri, but the above statement is factual even on its face. A lego club that doesn't want Shiri as a member, whatever their charter position as to the age of members, has lost its soul in my opinion. I am West (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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