 | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Tim Culberson
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| | | (...) HOLD ON! Did you stop reading there or did you just deliberately skip the following sentence so as to be misleading: "While he taught math and science at Christian high schools for the next fifteen years, he earned his Masters (1988) and (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) It is interesting still further that he doesn't specify the subject in which he received his degrees. For instance, numerous fly-by-night organizations offer two-week doctorates in "divinity," so until and unless he specifies, I'm no more (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Tim Culberson
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| | | | (...) Since he bases his entire argument on his belief in God, he does have a base for this... (...) No, this isn't a meaningless question. I guess I have to reword what I'm saying: What I am trying to say is that those who claim that the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) If this is all you want, no problem. I concede that the creationist beliefs (as they relate to macroevolution) are not impossible. They are highly unlikely, unverifiable, and unsupported by the available observations, but I concede that it is (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Tim Culberson
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| | | | | (...) And I have repeatedly asked you to provide an example showing their unlikeliness and telling me at least one or two available observations that don't support it. (Notice that I left out "Unverifiable" since the claims of Evolution are also (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Carbon dating. Speed of light. (More specifically, observed doppler shift as pertains to stars (and other astronomical bodies), indicating direction, speed of travel & distance.) Two well established scientific processes, both of which (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Easily explained away. All that is required is a god that wants to rig the game... The stars were created in 4006 BC with the appropriate compositions and velocities and things were set up so that light of the appropriate frequency was already (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) I have to admit, I find this a rather curious point. I know of no religion where there god must prove its/his/her self worthy of the worship of the individual. Further, I believe that if an entity, whatever it is, were able to create the whole (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) You're right. *Now* I know what I dislike about all of them! Thanks! I have the overweening pride to prefer eternal damnation to groveling to a god that is not worthy of me. (...) It's indeed irrefutable for an all powerful/creator of the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Jennifer Clark
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| | | | (...) I think it is all relative - if our universe was the godly creation equivalent of assembling a Duplo kit then perhaps said deity would perhaps not be so deserving of respect. However, respect would certainly be true if our universe and (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!") —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) The humanity is very small part of the universe. Humanity can be good - there are just a few bugs that is all ;-) But I note your lack of confidence in you fellow man to do good - we must start a club. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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