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| (...) I've been trying to stay away from this thread, but I can't just let this slide by. I do not want to own a gun, but if I lived in an area where guns were commonly available (as in your suggestion above), I would likely need to get one. Why? (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) So it is your belief that in areas with strict gun control laws criminals simply choose, out of fear of the law or something, to arm themselves with knives and baseball bats? (...) It would seem that your logic is completely faulty. It IS (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) No, it is my belief that, in general, most criminals of the caliber likely to invade my home while I am there are neither stunningly intelligent or ambitious. As such, if guns are difficult to get a hold of, they are much less likely to have (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) It doesn't bother me much when the fatality is the invader. What DOES bother me in your (contrived (1)) scenario is all the little old ladies clubbed to death with baseball bats because they can't swing a big stick as well as a 6'2" 240 pound (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) But the odds are as much in favor of the fatality being mine as anyone elses. If I'm involved in a violent crime, I would simply rather the chance of a fatality was slim or none. (...) Hm. I'm sorry, but the number of little old ladies who get (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) If you live in the US (do you?) guns are readily available to criminals. When I was in highschool (roughly 1985-6) I was periferally associated with a group of kids who brought guns from Texas to Missouri and sold them to other kids at a huge (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I do not live in the US. Define 'readily available'. I can, with a certain amount of paperwork, go down to my local sporting goods store, or outdoor supplier, and pick up a hunting rifle or shotgun. I don't even know what I would have to do to (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You're going to do what he says, huh? Even when he remembers that he forgot his mask, realises you probably ID'ed him very well (remember, you were pointing out how you'd be observing every detail, that's often a fairly noticable behaviour), (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) As (...) Subject to circumstances, obviously. (...) And anyone who invades my home, without a mask, without having the minimal intelligence necessary to check if there is anyone home first, is not at the top of the food chain. I am confident (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You don't need a gun for that -- no invader could ever *find* them. ;) Steve (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Ah, so there we have it. Canada. Now I understand. You guys have what, 2, maybe 3 people per square mile up there? Not enough people in one area to stir up the kind of trouble we have to deal with down here. :) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Unless they checked in his bed--(he sleeps with them ) (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Seems to me that the ones who'll break in while you are there *and* in a fairly gun-free area are either blindingly stupid or--more likely--intelligent and armed. After all, they're the ones who aren't caught or killed, and they rob again and (...) (25 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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