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Re: Problems with Christianity
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:11:04 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> Ok, I've been thinking about this for a bit...
That's good - many just blindly proceed along the path to destruction.
Christ Himself said "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate
and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through
it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and
only a few find it." [Matthew 7:13&14]
> I think I've boiled down the problems I have with Christianity:
> 1. God's existence
> 2. Christ's significance
> 3. A Heaven/Hell afterlife
> 4. Ethical principles
1. The problem with looking at God's existence from a purely scientific
point of view is that it doesn't work. Science can only prove/disprove
something that can be repeatedly tested in a laboratory. You can prove
that two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom will change from solid to
liquid state at zero degrees and to a gaseous state at 100, but you can't
prove or disprove _scientifically_ the existence of God any more than
you can love or anything else that can't be experimented upon in a lab.
You could prove the existence of God or love in a court, but not a lab.
2. Christ's significance isn't limited to just what He said and did.
You speak of Him in the past tense - it's not what He did - it's who He IS.
Christmas and Easter are celebrations of the three most significant events
in history - Christ's birth, death, and resurrection. (Even the very word
history, comes from His_Story.) (I could go on at great length, but I
don't think that's what you're after here.)
3. I would say that where you spend eternity is of utmost importance.
Christ spoke more about hell than He did about heaven. The answers
to your questions are in the Bible.
4. This country (consider me an American for the moment) was founded
on Biblical standards/principles/values. It's the very turning away from
God that is the root cause of the problems (and problems is a rather
drastic understatement) that are destroying our nation from within.
You said yourself that this fourth point is your main focus; I have a
basic question for you - If you do not base your ethical principles on
the Bible, upon what do you base them?
SRC
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Message has 6 Replies:
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| (...) Having sucked up a whole previous debate's worth of this sort of attack, I'm going to address this briefly. I am not blind, nor am I proceeding along a path of destruction any more certainly than you are. I'm sure it's possible to discuss (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Already established and debated. You're right. (...) I'm sure Dave! would correct you by saying science can't "PROVE" anything, but that's just semantics :) (...) Oh? That's new. I either doubt your conclusion or have a different definition of (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) With great trepidation, I must ask: what makes you believe that? (...) This is what I kept challenging John Neal about (and that he never directly answered). What's more important: who Christ is, or what his message is? His (and yours) (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Not really - Xmas was a pagan ritual coopted by the Christians because they couldn't quash it. (...) But if you don't believe in Eternity, who cares? Certainly not the person that doesn't. (...) Actually, it was founded on freedom OF religion, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Problems with Christianity
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| (...) (URL) then did we receive our holidays (holy days) with their customs and traditions _ Christmas as well as Easter, Halloween, and Mardi Gras? Each of them has come to us from ancient Babylon, through Rome, through the Roman Catholic church. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Sorry but I won't buy it. Since it is not true at all. If your founders ethics had been really based on the "Biblical standards/principles/values" there won't be a United States of America today. But this is not the whole point of course, (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Problems with Christianity
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| Ok, I've been thinking about this for a bit, and I'm not exactly where to place it in the fray, so I'm just starting a new thread. (Also, I'll be able to see the dots on this one in the event that people respond) I think I've boiled down the (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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