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Re: Libertopia - unproven theory
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Sat, 2 Dec 2000 15:50:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Welcome back Ed!
Thanks!
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ed Jones writes:
> > You can debate the benefits and drawbacks of Libertopia all you want.
> > The fact is that it is still only a pipedream. The majority of
> > Americans would never elect <Ed's characterization of the LP>
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> Two points though. Does "still"=="always and forever"?
Not in my dictionary. Still == remains to be.
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> Is it a valid debating and instructional technique to discuss a (stipulated
> never to be adopted) ideal system, even it is not quite consistent, as a way
> to understand and improve practical systems? I say yes. We have analogues in
> the physical sciences, in statistical analysis, in economic analysis and
> yes, even elsewhere in political science.
I agree, but this debate, along with abortion and Lego vs. Legos, have been
beat to death. I haven't seen any coverts on either side of any of those
discussions. Reminds me of the old Murphy Brown episode where Murphy tried to
get the opposing sides of a strike to talk: "Oh, just drop your pants, I'll get
a ruler and we'll settle this thing once and for all".
Give me something more interesting and I'll participate.
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 | | Re: Libertopia - unproven theory
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| (...) Ya, there's not a lot of unplowed ground 'round these parts to be seen of late, is there? (1) And with debate hijacking going on all over the place, when we find some new nuance, it doesn't take long before it gets turned into some sort of (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Libertopia - unproven theory
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| Missed a point... (...) Frank Filz. But that was a while back. (assuming you meant "converts"... you're not *supposed* to see "coverts", that's why they're covert. Me, I think Scott Arthur is secretly a LP member and doesn't want to admit it. :-) (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Libertopia - unproven theory
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| Welcome back Ed! (...) True enough. In fact, they won't even elect *the LP's* characterization of the LP, which is far more accurate and far more flattering. Libertopia is still only a pipedream, an ideal society. Two points though. Does (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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