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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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Date: 
Mon, 13 Nov 2000 00:42:43 GMT
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Okay, you are responding to opinions of two people mixed below, but I will just
cut to the chase, Chris.  You say killing mass murderers and repeat child
molesters is evil.  How would you deal with them?  Simply incarcerate them so that
they may enjoy 3 squares a day, free medical treatment, cable, workout equipment,
net access, etc, etc etc?

-John

Christopher Weeks wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

Well, not what "unjustified" means to *me*, but to what society says.  In the • case
of capital punishment, society may say that *that* is justice;

But that doesn't make it right, or actually just.

therefore executions are justified in the eyes of that society.

But still evil.

If a given group of people reach a democratic decision after am informed,
educated and objective debate - who am I to argue against they are "wrong"?

Well, if you're a member of said society, and being forced to fund their evil
practices, I think you ahve every right to explain that they are wrong.

I may disagree, but I can only respect their opinion.

Why?  Wrong is wrong.  This is true regardless of all the people that believe
in some wrong fact.  The sun did not circle the earth just because a bunch of
people thought so.  Why would you respect that opinion?

This issue aside, at
times eventualities may be reached which suit the needs of the majority - at
the expense of a minority. In that case, questions must be asked, and the
minority must be protected.

Yeah, like when the majority thinks that killing some minority (death-row
inmates -- to select a perfectly random example) is OK.

Chris



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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) just (...) that (...) equipment, (...) How do you deal with the first innocent person you murder??? Does that answer your question? As I stated before, I can think of 2 cases in Canada (and several in the US) off my head that would have lead (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) Yes. (...) Yes, assuming they will work, they need to be properly fed so they can perform as much work as possible, now if they chose not to work (or chose to be so uncontrollable that they can not safely be put to work), well, then they (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) I'm not sure I'd give them cable OR net access. I don't support the way prisoners are treated in the US (or for that matter, the way prisons are organized and funded)... but don't confuse that with support for putting someone to death in order (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) just (...) I would search for a way to help them remedy the harm that they caused. If they are mentally broken, I would therapise them (I suppose, by force, even though I'm uncomfortable with that), and if they were too broken, I would (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) case (...) But that doesn't make it right, or actually just. (...) But still evil. (...) Well, if you're a member of said society, and being forced to fund their evil practices, I think you ahve every right to explain that they are wrong. (...) (24 years ago, 12-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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