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| | | (...) Not a "slag", and to just the USA. (...) I'm not sure that is true. (...) That was years ago. I'm not pround of. It is in the past. (...) ...and what about all the murderous dictators uncle sam (and the other "western" nations) supported (...) (25 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | (...) It is though. That's exactly what they want. (As for what you said in reply to my post - well heck, Larry didn't intend this to be a debate about the US either, right? He was just proving a point. You argued it's not true. He said it and he's (...) (25 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) hard (...) I know extemists want that, but they are etremists. I read what in the UK is called a "seriouse" newspaper. I also listen to the good old BBC, which is, overall, pretty fair. Neither say what you claim. Perhaps this is part on the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | | (...) I would like to believe that as well, but I cannot do so in light of the past events. Arafat was supposedly for peace, and we in Israel hoped for a serious chance to acheive it. But now it seems that the Palestinians who want peace are not a (...) (25 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) the (...) OK. Which part of this were contorted then: Have the Israelis used disproportionate force? The video footage of 12-year-old Muhammed al-Durrah cowering beside his father before being shot by an Israeli soldier prompted much (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) I don't think so - I think it's been portrayed as disproportionate, but that doesn't prove it one way or the other. (...) do you think that that kid was killed intentionally? I seriously doubt it, and even if he was, I'm abosultly sure that (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Dan Boger
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| | | | | (...) why not? Jordan's population is 90% palestinian. The only thing stopping it from being a palestinian state is that the palestinians are not the ones running that country. So why is it not true? Dan (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | "Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:G2v4Dt.3C@lugnet.com... (...) hard (...) you... (...) it (...) Sorry, I was talking about the total destruction of Israel part. Scott A (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) oh - ok... you don't think Arafat want's the destruction of israel? hmmm... Arafat: [1] "Our people [are] continuing the road to Jerusalem, the capital of our independent Palestinian state," Arafat said. "To accept or not to accept it, let him (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) Does this mean he wants the "destruction of israel"? (...) Is he the only one who is "double faced"? I read this yesterday on the BBC: (URL) the Israeli did not react in such a violent manner the rioting would have stopped days ago. For now, I (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) Hmmm... it certanly doens't show that he want's peace, does it? (...) says right there, btw: Israelis, no matter how left-wing, cannot take Palestinian demands on par with their own because to accept Palestinian national rights is to deny (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger writes: <snip> After Scott's last message to me, I'm going to try to take my own advice and ignore him. He's just picking a fight with you and I advise you to do the same and ignore him in this thread as well... (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | I could use about 80% of this to describe you Larry. (...) There is no need to mother Dan, let him make up his own mind. After all, I think he has a real opinion on this, which is backed with understanding. I'm almost enjoying talking to him about (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) hmmm... (...) I'm sure he does want peace. Let's not doubt that. It is the terms of peace which are important. (...) What _is_ the answer then. The they are not will to treat all claims equally? (...) the (...) trying (...) A minority of those (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) I can't help but doubt that... otherwise, I truely believe there would have been progress in the peace process... (...) rephrase, please? I couldn't parse that last sentance... (...) I'll believe that when I'll see it. I doubt that he actually (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) equally? (...) Sorry, I think faster than I think at times What _is_ the answer then. If they are not willing to treat all claims equally? (...) Those guys have guns too - don't doubt it. They usually come round and shoot fathers in their beds (...) (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | "Scott A" <s.arthur@hw.ac.uk> wrote in message news:G2uFr7.BxA@lugnet.com... (...) you're (...) This should have been "Not a "slag", and not just the USA." (25 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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