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  Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
may be killing the goose that laid the golden egg. "When bank robbers steal your money, at least they have the honesty to admit they're just thieves," "When the Justice Department destroys $200 billion in wealth, it has the gall to claim that it is (...) (25 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
(...) An increase in a share price is not "real wealth". Nor is a decrease. Neither is "real" until you sell the shares. (...) Emotional button-push alert! Who knows where Microsoft stock - and its competitors stock - will go in the future. In the (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
(...) Right. But people who sold early, like me, did better than those who had a reasonable expectation of a reasonable government. I know better, of course. The poor shlubs who waited really did see a decrease in their wealth after they sold their (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bill Gates' real crime...
 
It seemed to me a pretty clear-cut case of monopolistic practices. Investors big and small should have seen this coming miles away. Microsoft even got a previous wake up call, dodged the bullet on penalties, and proceeded to behave as arrogantly as (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> I'm not sure what's your point here? Are you saying that the gov should have let microsoft be, even though the court decided it was breaking the law, just because a lot of people own it's stock? (...) Since when do we (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bill Gates' real crime...
 
(...) While MS may have had some anti-competitive practices, I haven't seen anything which justifies a breakup. Some thoughts of mine on some of the issues which have been raised: - MS billing vendors for a copy of Windows for every machine sold: Do (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bill Gates' real crime...
 
(...) Investors (...) behave (...) just (...) Two wrongs make a right? And I see lots of systems at my job that have unix, not windows. (...) I really don't want to sit and enumerate all of Microsoft's trangressions. It's a big, sprawling, complex (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
(...) Apologies for repetition, here are my views: - There is no such thing as a natural monopoly. All true monopolies are a result of government interference that raise barriers to entry. Get rid of barriers to entry and you won't have monopolies. (...) (25 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
(...) You're saying (quoting actually, but I'll assume you agree) that the wealth was actually destroyed? That is, that the world as a whole contains less wealth now than it did before? (...) Looted means stole, right? So did they steal or destroy (...) (25 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
Microsoft was founded by Bill Gates and his revolutionary program Windows. Nevermind the fact that he stole this program after IBM contracted him to create it. Oh and how about that whole 'force consumer to install Internet Explorer deal.' The whole (...) (25 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
(...) What grade did you say you got in personal computers 101? :-) Bruce (standing well clear of the impending demolition zone) (25 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
(...) This was all over the news a while ago in the USA. Bill Gates was working for IBM when he created Windows. He then stole that program (which would be the propertey of IBM because they paid him to make it) and founded his own company. (...) (25 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Murderer Reno's real crime...
 
Mike Petrucelli wrote in message ... (...) Windows. (...) for (...) the (...) company. (...) Windows. (...) Are you aware that Bill Gates (with Paul Allen) produced one of the FIRST commercial programs for a personal computer? He wrote BASIC for (...) (25 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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