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Re: We Should've Listened to Dick Cheney
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Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:03:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Chris Phillips wrote:
I confess that in 1901 I said to my brother Orville that man would not fly
for fifty years. Two years later we ourselves made flights. This
demonstration of my impotence as a prophet gave me such a shock that ever
since I have distrusted myself and avoided all predictions.
Wilbur Wright (1867-1912) (In a speech to the Aero Club of France, Nov 5,
1908)
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The difference is that Cheney’s prediction in 1994 was *exactly* correct.
Current events clearly show that invading Iraq without broad support from
our allies resulted in a quagmire.
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Ahh, thanks for dusting off and bringing the Q word into the discussion!
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I guess you didn’t bother to watch the video. Dick himself used the Q-word to
describe the aftermath of a unilateral invasion of Iraq. But that was before he
used it to mock people who said operation Blood For Oil was a Bad Idea.
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If you think that any of the homicide bombers over the years would have
reconsidered their actions because there had been broad support for the
invasion of Iraq, you are mistaken. Clearly we are winning in Iraq as
evidenced by the disgusting actions of homicide bombers who target
innocents. They know that they cannot stand up to the military might of the
US, so they prey on innocent Iraqi women and children, hoping that Iraqis
will blame our presence, instead of their own inhumanity for their savagery.
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Four years after Bush claimed victory in Iraq, we are still trying to contain
the insurgency, cobble together a workable government, prevent civil war, and
restore electricity and basic services to the cities we leveled. It took less
time for us to go from Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima/Nagasaki during WWII. If
that’s your idea of “winning” then I have a new understanding of your idea of
what makes a “great president.”
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Are you saying that in 2003 Cheney was so certain of his “impotence as a
prophet” that he figured he must have been wrong and we’d be greeted with
flowers instead? How would he know which one of his prophesies to believe?
And in any case, how does that qualify him to be second in command of this
once-great nation?
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Once-great nation? Please.
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Open your eyes. The US is in an accelerated decline, and the rest of the world
is happy to see us go down. We can’t even take care of our own, our
infrastructure is crumbling, economy in the toilet as the country’s mortgage
woes spread across the entire economy...
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Why is it that some people will defend these slimebags
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“These slimebags”? Let me guess: anyone with an (R) after their name?
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I’m not too happy with the slimebags on either side of the aisle these days.
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even in the face of
undeniable evidence of their gross incompetence and criminal negligence?
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Which “undeniable evidence” is that, exactly? “Gross incompetence”? (Cite?)
Criminal negligence? The charges are what, again?
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Gross incompetence: Remember New Orleans?
Criminal Negligence: Illegal invasion of Iraq - Bush still hasn’t satisfied the
requirements of the Senate resolution authorizing the invasion. Politicizing
the DOJ by firing/refusing to hire staffers on the basis of their party
affiliation. Awarding no-bid contracts to Halliburton? Illegal wiretapping of
US citizens’ private communications? Violating the Geneva Convention and
pissing away what little moral authority this country still had.
I was actually being nice - there’s nothing negligent about their crimes.
They’ve committed treason six ways to Sunday by selling us out to their special
interest lobbies.
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Even if things go right in Iraq, you will never accept it anyway, so this
whole discussion is rather mute. I betting that you’re still fuming about
the 2000 election.....
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I think you mean “moot.” But you said it yourself: “Even if things go right
in Iraq.” I thought you said we were winning...?
I’m over the 2000 election, John. I’m even over the 2004 election. President
Lame Duck shot himself in the wing by bragging about all the political capital
that he supposedly earned when he took the election by less than 1% of the vote.
What have these jokers actually accomplished in the last 6.5 years? I predict
another year-and-a-half of Bush/Cheney laying low.
I think the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate any shred of competence on
their part. Please, I’m all ears - name three major accomplishments of the Bush
administration. (And no, the fact that we haven’t been hit by a meteorite while
he’s been in office doesn’t count.)
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| (...) Ahh, thanks for dusting off and bringing the Q word into the discussion! If you think that any of the homicide bombers over the years would have reconsidered their actions because there had been broad support for the invasion of Iraq, you are (...) (17 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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