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Re: I don't think the Southern Baptist *Anyone* can say *anything* about *anyone else*
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Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:08:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Allister McLaren wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
   http://us.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/07/giuliani.baptists.ap/index.html

“ NASHVILLE, Tennessee (AP) -- A Southern Baptist leader said Tuesday that evangelical voters might tolerate a divorced presidential candidate, but they have deep doubts about GOP hopeful Rudy Giuliani, who has been married three times. ”

Why don’t they just call the position ‘His Holiness The President’ and be done with it? It seems to be what they (unreasonably) expect from him, and any candidates for the position, anyway (and ‘they’ are not just religious people either).

Hi, all--

This is yet another example of why one’s faith should color one’s decisions.

I make a living working for a Bible School. I would be considered “Evangelical” and/or “Conservative” by a good many people. I attend church when I’m not on the road somewhere (I travel a lot in my job), and often when I am on the road.

I don’t particularly care if a political candidate is male or female, and I don’t really care what color they are (unless they’re bley...whatever that is). I don’t even care if they’re Democrat or Republican. I do care if that person is qualified to run for and hold a public office. I’d say about a third of all candidates running for office probably are not qualified to hold it if elected, due to education, background, etc. Whether or not they’ve been divorced should not matter.

So Rudy’s divorced. So are about half my friends. Guess what? Outside of Jesus, nobody’s perfect. That’s why we’re human, not divine.

What I do care about is this: Will a candidate speak up for the things I think are important, like fixing social security (without privatizing it), healthcare, and finding a way out of this so-called war we are in? Will they balance the budget, clean up the environment, fund our schools adequately--as well as our National Parks? What are their views on those things (and others, best left unsaid in a forum such as this) I deem important...and, do they have the “guts” to stick to those views, when it seems unpopular?

Jesus said to 1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind, 2. Love your neighbor as yourself, and 3. Love one another.

The Bible (should that be your faith background) is to be our guide. Not our politicians. I hold my pastor in higher regard then my elected public officials--and I expect him to lead a more exemplary life. (And, I can explain why, based on a joint faith that includes regarding the Bible as God’s Word.)

I’d rather focus on those items in my faith.

I’ll get out of my pulpit now.

Play Well and Prosper!



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  Re: I don't think the Southern Baptist *Anyone* can say *anything* about *anyone else*
 
(...) Very well said. I've always been of the opinion that the *individual* can make decisions for him or herself with regards to, well, almost anything. That said, corporations, institutions, and whathaveyou--stating these almost 'edicts'--"The (...) (17 years ago, 9-Mar-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: I don't think the Southern Baptist *Anyone* can say *anything* about *anyone else*
 
(...) Very well said. I've always been of the opinion that the *individual* can make decisions for him or herself with regards to, well, almost anything. That said, corporations, institutions, and whathaveyou--stating these almost 'edicts'--"The (...) (17 years ago, 9-Mar-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: I don't think the Southern Baptist *Anyone* can say *anything* about *anyone else*
 
(...) Why don't they just call the position 'His Holiness The President' and be done with it? It seems to be what they (unreasonably) expect from him, and any candidates for the position, anyway (and 'they' are not just religious people either). (17 years ago, 7-Mar-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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