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| | | (...) Well, if you accept the premise that the baby in utero (thanks for the clarification above) is a person, then certainly the State has the obligation to protect that person's rights (namely, to live). So, by comparison, if a mother tires of her (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) And, naturally, that may be the hardest agreement to reach! (...) A fair question. If a fetus is removed from its mother at 20 weeks and spends another 20 weeks in an artificial uterus until birth, then that's just substituting one womb for (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Phew, I was getting the shakes in there! ;-) I'm wondering if it's as simple as simply stating, "life begins at heartbeat". Completely arbitrary, but not without a poignant touch, considering that the heart is a powerful symbol for humanity (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —David Koudys
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| | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) So you're a James disiple--"faith without works" and all that? I'm pretty much there except I say "In the end, I believe that we'll be judged on what we did" and leave the beliefs out of it, (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Yup. Faith without works is like a day without a bicycle. Or is that a woman without a man is like a fish without sunshine.... Something like that:-) (...) That's fine and good, but there's one caveat, and Jesus addresses this issue DIRECTLY (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) I'm not sure about that. If you get your butt seriously kicked by the world-at-large (through a spectacular failure or an overwhelming loss or a debilitating disease or whatever), then I'd say that you can get a pretty good grasp of what it (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Good point, and it highlites an omission I made. What I meant to say is that accounting to God is our only hope of remaining humble throughout life. Yes, life can get us down, but we are usually able to rise up and forget all that those (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Ross Crawford
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| | | | (...) I think most cultures respect life a lot. It's just those extremists you're talking about that seem to have less respect for it. And I don't just mean terrorists. And if more people were content to put up with the inconvenience of walking (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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