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| | | Yes, I get tired of the "clueless American" geography issue, when I find so many non-US citizens are surprised to find out that I can drive for over 600 miles on relatively straight interstates without touching reaching the far end of the state I (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —David Koudys
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| | | | (...) Takes me 20 hours(ish) of straight driving to get from my place in Ontario to the next province--Manitoba Though I'd say the best story about size and geography--a friends father tagged along with a university undergrad study course to look at (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | "David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I0qwBt.2D3@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) Yep, your provinces are pretty big... (...) tagged (...) former (...) which (...) country on (...) Careful though, 7 hours doesn't sound that (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) Hmmm, maybe it's a pretty darn big world after all! :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, but LA to Boston is only 5 hours...he was flying east. Chris (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | (...) Added to that the idea that LA and Boston are on opposite coasts, whereas Moscow and the city whonse name I can't remember are not really near the 'outer edges' of the former Soviet Union. So the 7 hours was 'in country', not even going from (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | "David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I0r8qE.nzy@lugnet.com... (...) country on (...) non-stop (...) Moscow (...) edges' (...) True, I was just pointing out that 7 hours by itself isn't impressive. You need to add the fact (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | "Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:I0r83n.J72@lugnet.com... (...) country on (...) non-stop (...) Good point. I just checked for Seattle to Miami, it's 5 hrs 44 minutes. I looked at Alaska Airlines schedule, can't (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —David Laswell
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| | | | | | (...) Last I checked, it's faster to fly west than east, since you'd be flying into the planetary rotation instead of overtaking it. Also, you can't judge the size of a country very accurately by board-to-debark times, since many airlines pad those (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | "Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message news:I0rBKu.1C9r@lugnet.com... (...) into (...) Flying against the planetary rotation might get you somewhere, I'm not sure how all the dynamics work. What I do know is that in the (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | (...) Basic physics says that if you spin the world in one direction, the air will (generally) spin in the other direction (counter-rotation, equal/opposite reaction and such), which should carry you even faster into the rotation and fight you even (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | | (...) Last I remember of Halley, Hadley and Coriolis that's not how it works, but it's been quite some time since I last looked at that kind of thing. The basic physics as I remember the model is that the heated air around the equator rises (the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Your explanation of hot air movement and how it affects weather and climate matches my memory of the facts a lot better than the previous hot air explanation did. Thanks for posting that! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) Does this apply to driving, as well? If so, I may have found a new excuse for being late to work. But a more serious question: How big a factor *is* planetary rotation vis a vis commercial jet travel? I would have thought that, because flights (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think the issue is the jet stream. It moves eastward somewhat faster than the ground, so going east you have a tailwind, and going west you have a headwind. Unfortunately for you, the mountains in PA aren't high enough for this to make you (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'll buy that, except that the original claim seemed to be that the rotation itself was the factor, not the jetstream. Admittedly, I may have misunderstood the framing of the problem: perhaps the question of east/west travel already assumed (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) I must admit I have never checked, so I can't even say "last I checked", but since Long Jumpers don't slaver at setting world records on a west facing runway let me be the first official doubter. Going east helps getting into orbit since that (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....) —David Laswell
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| | | | (...) Yeah, Russia is _almost_ bigger than any two of the other 5 largest nations, even after having large chunks of the ex-U.S.S.R. lopped off (and one of those chunks still ranks at #9 for both total land-mass and total area). In 1998, the (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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