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Re: Some wins for freedom from the Supremes
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Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:23:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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3 important cases today, although one would wish for wider findings (as
always)
http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5533972
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Certainly, along with the concession to
allow David Hicks to serve any sentence in Australia, these questionable
detentions seem to be heading in the right direction. Let’s hope the
Military Tribunals do not end up being
show trials.
ROSCO
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Tony B.Liar may be up for re-election next year. His closeness to Bush has
become a major electoral
problem. To mitigate
this, he is trying show he is not 100% lapdog. As a result, the UK Attorney
General noisily (and rightly)
rejected Bush’s
Military Tribunals last week:
“...there are certain principles on which there can be no compromise. Fair
trial is one of those - which is the reason we in the UK have been unable to
accept that the US military tribunals proposed for those detained at
Guantanamo Bay offer sufficient guarantees of a fair trial in accordance with
international standards.”
Does your PM accept the tribunals?
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Yup. Indeed, as I understand it Australia is one of the few (perhaps the only)
country with nationals involved who has NOT asked for them back.
Apparently at the time our dudes did whatever undisclosed thing that they may at
some stage be alleged to have done, we had no laws that would have made it
illegal, so our leadership thinks its best to leave them in the hands of the US
who have laws well suited to the purpose.
If they had committed crimes against the US in the US this might be tenable.
Otherwise, its appalling.
Apparently we are just fine with seeing our nationals taste justice American
style for activities with which they were associated in a country where it was
not illegal, activites which were not illegal under Australian law of the time,
and under a process which would be unacceptable in Australia even under our
shiny new wot laws.
Makes one proud of the lengths to which our leaders will go for our citizens,
not.
Richard
Still baldly going...
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