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| | | (...) Well, I did start the post with " Which is probably why I shouldn't be allowed to get one... " See, when the emotions get involved, can one really make a rational decision where life is concerned. I don't know what's the right thing to do. If (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
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| | | | (...) But if we are not outraged when atrocities occur, we are morally doomed. (...) How would it be unjust? Showing him the same mercy he showed seems just to me. The injustice is that there is a family whose lives have been completely shattered (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) And if we stoop to the level of the atrocity committer in our meting out of justice, we are also so doomed. (...) Assuming he did it. I grant it looks pretty certain but never can you be 100% CERTAIN. Do you know for *sure* what exactly (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Of course, but even if we tortured and killed a known torturer and killer, it still wouldn't be morally equivalent to the torturing and killing of an innocent. And BTW, what IS justice for a known kidnapper and murderer of innocent children? (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) I see no reason for cable TV or conjugal visits. Life in prison sounds about right though. (I beleive you asked this already) Note, again, my assertion that prisons need to be structured so that they do not cost the state money, but rather, (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) HA, don't let the Libs hear you say that;-) (...) But herein lies the rub. Does the punishment fit the crime? A 3 time drug abuser can get about the same length sentence (depending upon the ages of the criminals-- hey, life is only so long). (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | (...) Why? I would have thought all you Cons (of one ilk or another) stuck together anyway. ;-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hey, keep those puns in specified areas! (good one:-) JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) You're right, it's not. A 3 time drug "abuser" hasn't necessarily committed any actual crime at all, so shouldn't be in jail for his/her "crime". I'm glad to see you've decided to come to the side of the angels and oppose the war on drugs, at (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) money, (...) their (...) work? (...) Hmm, I might still let them have slop... I would offer a variety of incentives. I don't see a problem with prisoners who are on their way to rehabilitation having access to TV and such. In fact, if they are (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) It is hard for me to see how prison could be zero cost. Criminals tend to on the dim side and have low earning potential. How could one motivate them to work without rewarding them with (say) cable TV? In the UK, the cost of keeping a man (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Ross Crawford
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| | | | (...) (URL) I suppose they can...> ROSCO (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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