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(...) Which part of the teachings of Christ are you reflecting...I can't seem to find that part. Chris (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Maybe this one: "I will strew your flesh on the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land with your flowing blood up to the mountains, and the watercourses will be filled with you." Eze 32:5-6 or this one: "Now (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dude, I am imperfect and this is an imperfect world. Somehow, I believe he will come to full judgment for his actions, but probably not in this world. The closest thing I could think of to a fitting judgment here on earth would be to condemn (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well it should be pointed out that those are Old Testament books and while Christ never repudiated them he didn't exactly go around saying they were spot on as moral guides given the new relationship of god with man that was represented by the (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Woudn't that be like asking Dr J to do a PSA on abstinance? ;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17 I remember my mother quoting that to me. And I also remember in the next breath that she said, "And then he (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not so sure. While I still hold on my faith, I find it deeply distrubing that the atrocities ordered by God in the Old Testament are not reputiated in the teachings of Jesus since Jesus is God. In fact, I find it hard to accept that a God (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I think he did both. He was the Messiah, the hope and King of the Jews, so in that respect he fulfilled the Law and Prophecies. He also introduced a New Covenant, but I would disagree that it superceded the original covenant God made (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I have the same problem, but after having read The Great Divorce by CS Lewis, I have come to as close an understanding as I think I will ever come WRT Hell. His basic premise is that we of our own free will choose Hell, not God condemning us (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I lean towards the Seventh Day Adventist teachings in that death is a sleep during which the "dead know nothing" (Eccl 9:5), which is to say that nothing of a person survives death, that the dead simply cease to exist until they are (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I understand that, but aren't you supposed to try? I mean, you're openly embracing your desire to torture another man. I thought (and obviously I don't hold the same set of spiritual convictions that you do, but I thought I understood them a (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hi-ho. (...) Yes, you might think that if Jesus, as God-on-earth (or at least someone-more-qualifi...s-behalf), wanted it to be clear to people in his own time (and for all time) that the barbaric morality which the Old Testament portrays as (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What I was trying to do was emphathize with the parents of this little girl. I was imagining that it happened to my little girl. So yeah, my reaction was a little personal and over the top. I don't think Dave or I would be justified to torture (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not really. He certainly knows the bible better than I do, and perhaps even better than you do, John... (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps, if he were a Religion major in kollege (as I was). And BTW, I meant Wilt Chamberlain, not Dr J (I guess I got them confused because of Dr J's recent legal problems with his estranged wife...) JOHN (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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