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    What's Good for the Goose.... —John Neal
   (URL) And the local NAACP has the nerve to call the group "racist". When are such organizations going to come to the realization that their very existence perpetuates the type of behavior they abhor. JOHN (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —Dave Schuler
     (...) Well, I say let the girl have her school group. But I can understand the NAACP's discomfort at the thought of a return to (or perpetuation of) institutionalized White Clubs. The reason it's a sensitive issue is that, in the US, the the (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —David Koudys
   (...) Completely agree! As an aside, I put girls phys-ed in my course selection for a sememster when I was in high school. That got me called down to the principals office. He said I couldn't do it and I said that his decision was sexist and (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) This illustrates why I think essentially social clubs shouldn't be sanctioned by high schools - the reason the minority clubs formed is because whites wouldn't let them into any of the already established clubs. Perhaps the whole idea is (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —John Neal
      (...) Agreed. (...) "A local NAACP leader said Lisa McClelland's proposed club smacks of racial division". Accusing someone of creating "racial division" is akin to calling them "racists" IMO. The entire quotation is, in the final analysis, the pot (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) I don't see how it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Inasmuch as the minority groups formed due to ostracism, and the "white" group is not forming for the same reason, I can see where McCelland's concern is coming from. It seems (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) Oops, substitute "the local NAACP leader" in the places I put McCelland's name. -->Bruz<-- (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —John Neal
      (...) Because he has no problem with any other group forming using race as a basis for its existence! Black clubs and Asian clubs also "smack of racial division", but somehow they are of no concern to him. (...) I can too, but hello?! we are not in (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —Richard Marchetti
     (...) I sort of agree with your view. Surely, a purely social club is a waste of everyone's time at a high school. But, having clubs that form around a topic, like say "Germanic mythology" or "Ethiopian dance," wouldn't be a problem as long as (...) (21 years ago, 30-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) I think Lugnet ate my expansions on this topic - I got tired of retyping them and just packed it in on this subject. Essentially, I said the same thing as you do above: clubs open to all centered around topics or activities was fine by me: ski (...) (21 years ago, 30-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: What's Good for the Goose.... —John Neal
   (...) You know, it's people like you wot cause unrest....;-) (...) Hmmm. Racism and sexism are different beasts. I am not in favor of equating the sexes-- they are not equal. Why O why do some women insist on trying to be like men? Men suck-- they (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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