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    Re: Free Speech, again —Dave Schuler
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: *** For the record, I've snipped parts with which I disagree but which I recognize will not yield to discussion by either of us--you're as convinced of your correctness as I am of mine, and never (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Free Speech, again —Larry Pieniazek
   Oh heck, I snipped most of it without regard to whether I agreed with it or not... (...) No they aren't. At least not always. AM I THAT predictable? I'm not a number (in a platform plank somewhere), I'm a free man! But maybe I could make an (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Free Speech, again —Dave Schuler
   (...) Most importantly, you haven't told me where "ne" came from. Very clever omission--what are you hiding? (...) I've wondered about something like that. I believe the Turing test hypothesizes that a computer convincingly able to mimic human (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Free Speech, again —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I honestly don't know! Must be some other forum I hung out on or something. Or maybe I made it up? Who can say. I use it to mean "yes?" (as in, "do you agree?") and only at the end of sentences. Anyone recognise it? Google wasn't much help. No (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Free Speech, again —Dave Schuler
      (...) Doh! How about the simple "ne c'est pas?" in the now-forbidden language? Dave! (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Free Speech, again —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Urp! Maybe. Try not to let "brother"(1) Ashcroft know about that, OK? I'm on enough lists as it is. 1 - you used capitalization as if to imply he were a monk, I suppose. I use quotes as if to imply I'm not convinced he's the same species as (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Free Speech, again —Maggie Cambron
       (...) Actually the Japanese connection makes more sense because if you make a statement and then append the "ne" it does mean "don't you agree?" or "isn't it?" But I wouldn't have associated it with the Lar "ne" because I always read that with an (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Free Speech, again —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Must be from Anime or Manga then. Thanks for that, Mags... whew, that's all settled. (I'm gonna go with her explanation, Dave! Sorry about that, but she's smarter than you, Dave!... you're allegedly not as smart as Tim Robbins, at least (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Free Speech, again —Dave Schuler
        (...) Yeah, but she's got nothing on me in the pudding-eating category. Dave! (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Free Speech, again —James Brown
       (...) Probably. Appending "ne" or "neh" as I've always seen it spelled is from the Japanese. I know I picked it up from James Clavell in years gone by, but Anime/Manga has certainly re-inforced it. That's how language grows, neh? (That's how (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Free Speech, again —David Koudys
        (...) <snip> (...) Well, us Canadians have been doing that for years, eh [1] Dave K 1- pronounced 'ay'--hearkens back into Canadian obscurity, but most pronounced during the McKenzie Era, in which two Canadian Heros--Bob and Doug popularized the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Free Speech, again —John Neal
       (...) Here in Minnesnoowda, we use an inflection of the voice at the end of a statement such as "That's how language grows" which in essence implies "Are you with me?" I never noticed how predominant it was until I moved away to Arizona for 7 years (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Free Speech, again —James Brown
       (...) Heh. Nope. But I didn't realize until I left Canada and came back how much we really do say "eh" up here, eh? James (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Free Speech, again —John Neal
       (...) Come to think of it, it may be more of a Norwegian thing... (...) You betcha. JOHN (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Free Speech, again —Pedro Silva
      (...) Actually, the french expression is "n'est-ce pas?". Sorry, I didn't want to become a grammar cop... :-/ Pedro (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Free Speech, again —Dave Schuler
      (...) Go for it! My ignorance of French grammar/spelling borders on the absolute. I was just trying to recall what I remember reading in Alpha Flight comic books 20 years ago.... Dave! (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Free Speech, again —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Still got 'em somewhere in the garage. Worthless, alas, while my Albedos went for something like $1000. And yes, my Mom made me throw out my X-Men and Avengers #1s (got 'em on the same day as I recall). -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Free Speech, again —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Gosh, all you people should read James Clavell's Shogun. You'll get "ne"'d to death. -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Free Speech, again —Pedro Silva
     (...) It may be a brazilian contraction of "não é?", "né?" (without the accent, which is not standard in many brazilian keyboards). It translates to "isn't it?" in English. But really, I'm guessing here... HTH (somehow!), Pedro (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Ne or Ni [monty python] —Scott Arthur
     (...) Dave, you must have heard of The Knights Who Say 'Ne'? Or was it 'Ni'? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Ne or Ni [monty python] —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) I've always thought it was "Nee"! Fredrik (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Ne or Ni [monty python] —Tim Courtney
     (...) Sorry to bring up an old thread (dons flame-resistant suit), but I've always thought it was 'ni.' But maybe that's just mi. I'd think 'nee' would be said 'nay.' At least in some countries. ekki ekki f'tang zwoop-boing bbmmbrwow ni -Tim (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: Ne or Ni [monty python] —Adrian Drake
     (...) I decided to go straight to the source. A survey of numerous online sources shows a universal spelling of "ni". Now, I know to take what the intarweb says with a grain of salt, but 8 different websites can't all be lying, can they? Maybe they (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: Ne or Ni [monty python] —Chris Osborn
     (...) The sound file that NeXT used to ship stock with NeXTSTEP was named "Ni.snd" (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: Free Speech, again —David Koudys
   (...) <snip> (...) And now Larry's corrpupting folks from all over the world, ne? (URL) K (22 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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