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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:32:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> > What gets my undies in a bunch is when ignorant people group *all* Christians
> > together. Because one sorely misguided wacko such as Andrea Yates, who claims
> > to be a Christian offs all of her kids, that must mean that *ALL* Christians
> > are guilty of slaughtering innocents. It just doesn't wash, and it's
> > disingenuous to imply so. 99.9% of all professed Christians would condemn her
> > actions.
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> Can you not see the contradiction you're broadcasting? You are constantly
> sputtering about "athiests" and "leftists" as if either group can be painted
> with a single brush, but then you get your undies in a bunch when people
> applie your own standards to the club to which you belong! Disingenuous
> doesn't begin to cover it!
Back up there, schoolboy. Atheists *can* be categorized insofar as that they
all have one thing in common that binds them-- no belief in God. But you would
be hard pressed to find a single common belief among *all* Christians, short of
their belief in God (in which case you are hardly talking about Christians in
particular).
Further, I attacked *extremist* Muslims, which are a group who *all* believe in
the concept of jihad and find the killing of innocents *perfectly* acceptable.
You *will not* find such agreement in Christianity, or any other religion
AFAIK (although you *might* find it in some *extreme* fringe group, but they
would be condemned by the group as a whole anyway). The equation of such
extremist groups and their larger groups is what I find objectionable.
<snip>
> And let's be honest; can you name an athiest *prior* to the last hundred
> years who qualifies as one of the "greatest butchers of all time?" I can
> think of several Xtians who fit that category, spanning a far greater
> stretch of time than the past century.
This really isn't what I want to argue about-- I really haven't a qualm with
atheists WRT to this. I just found it interesting that RM didn't list them,
that's all. Unless you *want* to argue that atheists have *no* blood on their
hands, I have nothing more to say about it.
-John
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| (...) Easy there, zealot. (...) How about an alleged belief in Christ? That seems like a binding factor that unites Andrea Yates, Torquemada, Emperor Constantine, David Koresh, Mother Theresa, and Padre Pio, regardless of the different (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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