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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:44:22 GMT
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Something just struck me wrong when I read this...

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
Back up there, schoolboy.  Atheists *can* be categorized insofar as that they
all have one thing in common that binds them-- no belief in God.  But you would
be hard pressed to find a single common belief among *all* Christians, short of
their belief in God (in which case you are hardly talking about Christians in
particular).

Back up there, schoolboy.  Christians *can* be categorized insofar as that they
all have one thing in common that binds them-- belief in God.  But you would
be hard pressed to find a single common belief among *all* Atheists, short of
their lack of belief in God (in which case you are hardly talking about
Atheists in particular).

Further, I attacked *extremist* Muslims, which are a group who *all* believe in
the concept of jihad and find the killing of innocents *perfectly* acceptable.
You *will not* find such agreement in Christianity, or any other religion
AFAIK (although you *might* find it in some *extreme* fringe group, but they
would be condemned by the group as a whole anyway).  The equation of such
extremist groups and their larger groups is what I find objectionable.

so...

I could attack *extremist* Christians, which are a group who *all* believe in
the concept of bombings and find the killing of innocents *perfectly*
acceptable.  You *will not* find such agreement in Islam, or any other religion
AFAIK (although you *might* find it in some *extreme* fringe group, but they
would be condemned by the group as a whole anyway).  The equation of such
extremist groups and their larger groups is what I find objectionable.


Can't you see how much you're contridicting yourself?

Dan



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  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) But then you wouldn't be talking about *only* Christians. If belief in God is your sole criteria, then you would have only a small portion of the group if you were speaking of Christians-- Muslims, Jews, Deists, etc would be a part of that (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) Back up there, schoolboy. Atheists *can* be categorized insofar as that they all have one thing in common that binds them-- no belief in God. But you would be hard pressed to find a single common belief among *all* Christians, short of their (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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