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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 10 Jul 2002 02:08:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> Back up there, schoolboy. Atheists *can* be categorized insofar as that they
> all have one thing in common that binds them-- no belief in God. But you would
> be hard pressed to find a single common belief among *all* Christians, short of
> their belief in God (in which case you are hardly talking about Christians in
> particular).
Wait a second. I thought the unifying belief of "Christians" was
in the divinity of Jesus Christ--unless something has changed, and
groups like the Unitarians are now "acceptable" to the bulk of
Christianity as Christian faiths (not that Unitarians themselves
would accept such a characterization anymore, of course).
> This really isn't what I want to argue about-- I really haven't a qualm with
> atheists WRT to this. I just found it interesting that RM didn't list them,
> that's all. Unless you *want* to argue that atheists have *no* blood on their
> hands, I have nothing more to say about it.
How many have blood on their hands as a direct consequence of their
atheism? Now some do because of an ideology that includes atheism
(Stalin comes instantly to mind, and that's a big big one to have)
but trying to land accusations for genocide in the modern world on
religion or lack thereof strikes me as unnecessarily reductionist.
For example, in much of the world, Catholics and Protestants live
in peace together; but in Northern Ireland, the situation has differed
dramatically. In the post-Enlightenment world, religion is just one
of many cultural factors (albeit an important one) that combine to
create whatever relationships groups of people enjoy with one another.
best
LFB
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