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    Capital Ideas —Dave Schuler
    Here in sunny Western PA we have a disturbing abundance of far-right demagogues on the radio, all of whom place the blame for all the ills of society--from the possibility of a dirty bomb to the heartbreak of psoriasis-- squarely upon Liberals. I (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Capital Ideas —John Neal
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: Can anyone verify this (...) Can't help you there, but here's an interesting argument regarding capital punishment- Most murders occur in conjection with other crimes (theft, rape, etc). If a criminal (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Capital Ideas —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I'd want to see some stats on that. I think you can construct an argument the other way too, that once you've crossed the line and are now a good candidate for that penalty, nothing is going to stop you from committing further crimes. (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Capital Ideas —Scott Arthur
     (...) Me too. I always understood that most murders were committed by husbands boyfriends, fathers, step-dads etc? On the broader subject of the death penalty, I think it is good that the US has finally decided to stop executing criminals "learning (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Capital Ideas —Scott Arthur
     (...) I expect there are a great deal of studies which prove it works, and just as many which prove it does not. Personally, I think that is irrelevant. I oppose it as: a) I think it is immoral. b) Justice is always subject to human error. c) I (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Capital Ideas —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Excluding Texas would probably work to his advantage: I believe Texas has the highest murder rate along with the highest execution rate. Either capital punishment has little effect, or Texas would soon be laid waste without it (one must test (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Capital Ideas —Dave Schuler
     (...) And correlation doesn't equal causation, except when convenient for one's agenda! 8^) (...) A tangential but related point: On Saturday I chanced to hear some of the Mike Reagan radio show on which Mike (with typical, laser precision) (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Capital Ideas —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Yeah, I can't see why Padilla can't be given his rights, due process, equal protection, trial by jury for treason, right to appeal, and then hung upside down by the short-hairs until he is dead either... I mean, the guy is an american however (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Capital Ideas —Dave Schuler
      (...) I agree! Either we have a case and should try him, or we don't have a case and should release him (after implanting a GPS tracking device, of course...) (...) Well, sure! I'd just like them to be consistent in their particular flavor of (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Capital Ideas —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Simply moronic. The government *claims* all sorts of things. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong, and sometimes there are some evil people with a hidden agenda. It has nothing to do with "conservative" or "liberal". It has to do (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Capital Ideas —Ross Crawford
   (...) Here's an article that blames crime on diet (URL) sort of... ROSCO (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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