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Re: The "Unknown" Santa Fe
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:48:09 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Rick Clark writes:
> Allan Bedford wrote:
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> > In lugnet.trains, John Musil writes:
> >
> > > I think that the train registry for the 10020 is a great idea! When I got
> > > my first three sets, I quickly opened all of the sets to see the numbers,
> > > but then after posting the sets numbers, on the Internet
> > > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=12973>, I quickly realized
> > > that I decreased the value of the set by opening the "Limited Edition" set.
> >
> >
> > I guess this begs the question. Did you buy them to enjoy them or to make
> > money from them? I'm not judging, I'm just saying that if you bought them
> > for yourself, to build and enjoy, then I think it's fantastic that you've
> > opened them. I think this *increases* the value... for you. And I think
> > that's the most important thing.
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>
> <snip>
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> I hate to be the grammar police, but this is one of my new pet peeves. I
> believe you mean that Allan's comments -prompt- your question.
Actually, I think it was John's comments that begged the question. :)
> To beg
> the question means to -avoid- the question, or else to use your own
> conclusion as the basis for an argument.
O.K. No disagreement on the actual meaning. I was relying on the implied
and commonly understood meaning. As wrong as it may be, it's used in
everyday coversation for exactly the purpose I intended. I believe the
average person would understand it's usage in this case.
I made a few other comments in this follow-up:
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/fun/?n=9041
> Of course, it is possible that you felt that his comments -were-
> avoiding the question of his motivation for buying the sets, in which
> case, I'll shut up, except to say that such confusion is the reason many
> grammarians discourage the use of the "avoid" definition of "beg the
> question."
No, don't shut up, you're right. But I'm sticking with my reasoning. And
I'm also reserving the right to start sentences with words like 'but' or
'and'. Because I feel that most people don't have enough fun with words. :)
> FUT lugnet.off-topic.debate, because there's no
> lugnet.off-topic.nitpickers. ;-)
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> Rick Clark
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> Completely unrelated to this thread, but as long as were in
> off-topic.grammar:
> My number one pet peeve: "Hehe" is not a word! If you're giggling, it's
> spelled "hee hee," and if chuckling, it's "heh heh."
Or, if you're imitating Nelson off the Simpsons it's, "ha ha" :)
Regards,
Allan
Who's off to the Grammar Rodeo in Canada.
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