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Re: For the Eyes of Alfred Speredelozzi
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Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:55:35 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Alfred Speredelozzi writes:

I think what I did was a GOOD thing.  At least in the idea that
some good "How do we help the community" discussion has taken
place.

Alfred,

I don't know how resolved this is in your understanding at this point.  To
those of us who are the insiders here, or at least to me, this is how it
seemed:

I object to you labeling yourself an 'insider' in a multinational internet
discussion group.  I don't know who you are, or what your relationaship is to
Lugnet (except as a poster) to Scott or Larry or to any other group.  There are
many groups here, and I think there is a particular problem with the cliquiness
running through this neighborhood.  You may very well have inside information
about many of the issues here, but this was a public conversation.  I can only
be held responsible for the public part.


1) There was this long-running fairly disruptive fight thing going on about,
between, and surrounding Scott and Larry.

I could see this, but I have seen these disputes come and go over the past many
months, and wanted to add my opinion to the most germaine of them.


2) There was finally, _finally_, FINALLY, some resolution even if it was an
unpleasant and ugly resolution.

I didn't see this.  Honestly, I don't know what resolution there was except
silence.


3) This guy that doesn't normally participate here just "barged" in and tried
to stir the embers into a flame.

You have really no knowledge of my participation.  I certainly participate in
lugnet.  I send money to support the cause.  I post occasionally, when I have
something to say, and finally I read lugnet posts almost every day.  So I am
fairly insulted by being considered someone who barges in.  I don't expect you
to value my opinion as a friend, but at least respect that not everyone who adds
a comment outside of his/her usual threads is an outsider!


So from our perspective, your timing really sucked and it seemed like you were
just trying to egg the fight on.  I would normally assume that if you read
the immediately significant threads and noted how long the issue had been
burried, that you wouldn't post a note like you did because it wouldn't have
any value to the discussion.

But it's really no big deal at this point.  It was just a little mistakey kind
of thing.  And Richard probably could have worded his admonition more
invitingly.

Chris

So, I understand that you were just describing your feelings at the time, and I
respect that.  But I don't want to leave it unanswered.

-Alfred



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  Re: For the Eyes of Alfred Speredelozzi
 
I seem to have done more harm than good. (...) All I meant was frequent participant of this particular news group. I guess that wasn't obvious, though I hadn't (and still haven't) come up with any other plausible meaning. (...) Just a user. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: For the Eyes of Alfred Speredelozzi
 
(...) Alfred, I don't know how resolved this is in your understanding at this point. To those of us who are the insiders here, or at least to me, this is how it seemed: 1) There was this long-running fairly disruptive fight thing going on about, (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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