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I agree with everything said here Eric,
In lugnet.general, Eric Sophie writes:
> Nick, and all, I too see this and wish it could be better, of course we all
> know that with thousands of members and dozens of threads, indeed it's
> difficult to keep up. But at the same time I think we could do better.
>
> We almost need a post outlining good post ediquet. I was disapointed many
> times when I made posts. I never wanted to complain because hey, you get
> what you get and be happy with it, and frankly I did'nt want to come off as
> whineing.
>
> Truth is there are some people who reply to threads and just spout off
> opinions, I spend alot of my time perfecting MOC's and I get only a few
> cherished replies, then I look around and everybody is jumping into debate
> and opinion posts rather than giving to a post where someone actually made
> something and is eager to hear from people about his or her efforts.
>
> That really bugs me, I spend $5000 on a Robot and I get 3 replies.
> I will always build for myself and always have, I don't need a pat on the
> back, but then again it is nice right?
>
> Example:
>
> The Lego company did a story about me and a few others in the Build section.
>
> These are the only cherished replies:
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/people/?n=2427
Truth be told, I only saw this recently, a few weeks ago, I meant to pass on
my congrats through e-mail but forgot completely, sorry. :-(
> Now you gotta figure that for a Lugnet Member and a Lego nut in general to
> make onto the official Lego web-site is like the ultimate acheivement and
> yet I felt so un-noticed by my fellow Lugnet'ers. Again, I don't need
> anyones approval but it is nice when I get replies.
>
> This post got no replies whatso ever:
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=16280
>
> Is this subject matter over everyones heads or is nobody interested?
> Either way for me to respond to my own post asking why nobody replied is bad
> form.
>
> I wish people did the following:
>
> 1. When a person makes a post about a MOC give some feedback!
Amen!
when I was just getting started with showing off my MOC's etc, I almost
never got replies, see this post:http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=11051
Granted, I was still devoping my style, and now, with the help of Many (Eric
being one of them) I'm starting to produce MOC's that are original, and
interesting, so I'm starting to garner more replies, but when I was stilll
getting started, I would have enjoyed much more feedback than I got, which
was little to none,
> 2. If the MOC isn't your favorite building style, still respond! give credit
> to the way Lego was used in the creation, don't let the theme or style
> dictate your responce, fact is it's Lego and that's all that should matter
> and not that it's a Mech or a Train or Castle...if the way the parts were
> used are a clever technique then jump in and say somthing if you like it!
> 3. When you make a post about a MOC and someone replies to the post you
> oughta reply with a thank you! If you take a look in .Mecha almost all of us
> have a double line going straight down the thread: reply to the original
> post and a thank you for the reply in return. Think of it like if you were
> standing right in front of someone and you said hey! good job and they look
> right at you and say nothing.
IMO, mecha is simply THE best group on LUGNET, I think nearly every MOC
posted gets at least one or two replies,
> 4. When you reply to a MOC take a sentence or two to talk about what and how
> the parts are used, a simple "hey that's cool" is nice, but we all know that
> the beauty lies within the system and perhaps we should look a little more
> at the process and encourage the way in which we build and not so much
> merely that we build in general.
> 5. One thing that always bugs me is that when someone makes a MOC and
> another person jumps in to excersise their opinion about some point in the
> thread that has nothing to do with the MOC or evan aknowlegding the original
> message.
>
> Sorry but as much as I like Larry P. he was guilty of that here:
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/admin/terms/?n=332
>
> (sorry Larry but I gotta call you on this)
>
> I got now aknowledgement just an intrusion into my thread without praise to
> the original reason the whole post was made in the first place.
>
> Also, I was really upset by this as well:
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/build/mecha/?n=3456
>
> I posted this to .michlug because I like and respect the group and admire
> their club, I happen to think there are alot of good builders out there and
> that's why I cross posted the story, I don't abuse the crosspost rule and I
> felt really shocked that I got dissed like that. That story was so important
> to me and it mattered to me a great deal. The real underlying meaning of the
> story was lost and that's a shame. Well at least to Amy it was.
>
> Hey Amy why'd you dis me! I was giving your lug group props!
That whole thing really ticked me off,
This whole crossposting rule, IMHO is crap, people should not be considered
attention getters just for sharing their models to many groups, they are
actually contributing, and allowing even more people to see their creations
and be inspired.
> 7. I don't know this for sure but it seems like certain groups don't post
> outside their own forums, it seems like if the post isn't in thier group it
> doesn't matter to them. Of course there is the issue of the quantity of
> threads and it being difficult to reply to them all, however, I still see
> close nit groups with no care for others outside of their own forums.
>
> 8. Having a "contest" between groups to see how many posts that group is up
> on another is silly, of course group pride runs strong and that's cool, but
> again different groups can come off as exclusionary when they don't seem to
> pay attention to the groups around it. (ahh this point is kinda
> flakey...nevermind)
>
> Well, there is my take on Ediquet and posting. I wish we all could talk more
> and I know we all have different priorities.
>
> Just remember the person that works hard loves a little praise.
> and reply to the compliments with a thank you.
> Keep in mind that just because we don't phyically see each other we all
> still deserve a little courtesy.
I try my best to reply to as many messages(MOC's) as I can, but I know that
I'm not as good as I could be,
I think I'll take this opportunity to agknowledge someone who is though,
Gary Blessing! You reply to almost every MOC out there, you take the time to
drop a friendly note as you go, Way to go Gary!
Thanks for the insightful opinions Eric, I'm hoping that this will caus ea
giant chain reaction of replies to MOC"s from this point forward.
> In closing I'm releived that you broached this subject, it's difficult to
> point out short commings without seeming like we are complaining, truth is
> we are just striving to become better.
>
> Sincerly,
>
> Eric
>
> www.mylegomaster.com
>
> Waaa Waaaa check out my new web site and PLMKWYT!!!!!
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=1336
>
> :-)
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