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(...) They are already. Guns are A) a hassle to get most places, B) expensive, and C) highly regulated as is. (...) It might, in fact, reduce the number of school shootings. I'm not convinced of this, but I'm willing to concede that it might. But I (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... within the US, because there is always a place nearby where it is easy to get arms. (...) Quicker in the US than in Europe, for example. What makes me think so is the simple difference between how the average Europe Gas Station robbery (...) (23 years ago, 24-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which every single piece of legislation I've ever seen (except for legislation REPEALING gun control law) does. (23 years ago, 24-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes - easier to illegally get arms. I could get an illegal gun MUCH easier than a legal gun, yet I choose to wait and get one following the ridiculous laws of this state. How does the ease of illegal acquisition for criminals affect the fact (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK, if it is easier to get an illegal gun in states that have restrictions on who can and how he can legally obtain a gun, then, of course, this needs to be fixed, too. (...) I was talking about *legal* ways for criminals to get guns. And to (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fixed how? The solution I favor is to lift those restrictions. (...) It IS appropriate to compare US states because we're not giving up our right to keep and bear arms. Whether or not you think it's safer without them, we are committed to (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You already guessed that I prefer a different solution, didn't you? I think it's time to agree that we disagree. The discussion has not brought up any new arguments for a while ... (...) I am for sure not going to tell you what you should do (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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