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Re: More on Palestine
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:43:46 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
> For a moment, I couldn't tell whether I was reading something from the
> National Review or the World Zionist Org's website. What a bunch of hogwash.
> At least it was worth a good laugh.
You are going to have to do a little better than that at debunking...
Is this quote "hogwash"?
"Of course, "the right of Israel to exist" has never been accepted by its
enemies, especially Yasser Arafat. "
(I note you haven't answered whether you think it has a right to exist
either... I'm starting to assume "no", and that you repudiate the UN
resolution but I haven't been able to elucidate an answer yet)
Is this one hogwash too?
"Israel has been a loyal ally in other ways. During the Gulf War in 1991,
Saddam Hussein deliberately attacked Israel with 39 Scud missiles and
threatened to strike it with chemical and biological weapons. Rather than
retaliate with its military might, the U.S. persuaded Israel to stand down —
fearing moderate Arab states (and Syria) would drop out of another
American-led coalition. "
Or perhaps this is hogwash?
"In 1986, when Ronald Reagan ordered U.S. bombers in Britain to attack
Libya, three of our allies — France, Germany, and Italy — refused to
cooperate in the strike, thereby endangering the mission and American crews.
The bombers were forced to fly for a longer period of time and to refuel
several times in the air. Yet, no lectures from Shields on how the people of
these countries owe their liberty to America."
These are all verifiable historical facts.
From the other one:
"Just a few hours before our assault on the Taliban, the Voice of Palestine,
Yasser Arafat's official radio station, "informed" its listeners that the
FBI had discovered that Israel was behind the September 11th mass murder in
New York and Washington, and had arrested several teams of Mossad agents. "
That one, I am certainly interested in hearing whether it's true or not. I
don't speak Arabic, so can't say. Fits the MO for the PA though.
But I agree with the *conclusion* drawn in that one... the PA and Arafat are
part of the problem, not the solution. The Palestinians will never be free
under the brutal yoke of the PA.
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Message has 5 Replies:
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| (...) Larry, I might have missed it but given that Israel has a right to exist, what boundaries do you think it should have? The original partition boundaries, the current boundaries, the current boundaries with some concession to Palestinian (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Okay... (...) Tell me, is this hogwash, straight from the Yitzhak Rabin Center for Israel Studies?: (URL)(I note you haven't answered whether you think it has a right to exist (...) Didn't I addressed that off-line with you? If not, obviously (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Are you now saying Syria is a moderate Arab state? Who said this: "Some countries are better than others. Syria is one of the worst on just about any metric you care to name. Any metric." Do you views change with the wind? Scott A (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I agree. (...) (URL) leader Yasser Arafat told Israeli reporters the PNC would be prepared to vote on the anti-Israel clauses, going further than the conditions laid down in the Wye River agreement. The Wye accord commits Israel to withdrawals (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Arafat may have taken some time to accept, but by now he accepted. Doesn't help much, though, given ... ... the number of Palestines organized in more radical organizations than PA ... the current Israeli administration "Especially Yasser (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| For a moment, I couldn't tell whether I was reading something from the National Review or the World Zionist Org's website. What a bunch of hogwash. At least it was worth a good laugh. Dan (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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