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Re: More on Palestine
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:31:15 GMT
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> You are going to have to do a little better than that at debunking...
Okay...
> Is this quote "hogwash"?
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> "Of course, "the right of Israel to exist" has never been accepted by its
> enemies, especially Yasser Arafat. "
Tell me, is this hogwash, straight from the Yitzhak Rabin Center for Israel
Studies?:
http://www.rabincenter.org.il/english/bio_12.html
> (I note you haven't answered whether you think it has a right to exist
> either... I'm starting to assume "no", and that you repudiate the UN
> resolution but I haven't been able to elucidate an answer yet)
Didn't I addressed that off-line with you? If not, obviously I reject those
resolutions because they were made in haste and were not accepted by all
parties (and look at the result of hasty decisions). I think things could
have worked out better if the U.N. approached the matter more carefully and
considered the long term repercussions of creating the states of Israel and
Palestine. The whole region was hoodwinked by the Europeans, who sort of
threw a match in the house and took off running. Africa is much the same way
after colonialism and imperialism.
> Is this one hogwash too?
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> "Israel has been a loyal ally in other ways. During the Gulf War in 1991,
> Saddam Hussein deliberately attacked Israel with 39 Scud missiles and
> threatened to strike it with chemical and biological weapons. Rather than
> retaliate with its military might, the U.S. persuaded Israel to stand down —
> fearing moderate Arab states (and Syria) would drop out of another
> American-led coalition. "
Filthy, racist Zionist scum, yet a loyal ally of course...America has had
lots of "loyal allies."
> Or perhaps this is hogwash?
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> "In 1986, when Ronald Reagan ordered U.S. bombers in Britain to attack
> Libya, three of our allies — France, Germany, and Italy — refused to
> cooperate in the strike, thereby endangering the mission and American crews.
> The bombers were forced to fly for a longer period of time and to refuel
> several times in the air. Yet, no lectures from Shields on how the people of
> these countries owe their liberty to America."
Wasn't Khaddafi's adopted daughter killed in that attack?
> These are all verifiable historical facts.
Yep.
> From the other one:
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> "Just a few hours before our assault on the Taliban, the Voice of Palestine,
> Yasser Arafat's official radio station, "informed" its listeners that the
> FBI had discovered that Israel was behind the September 11th mass murder in
> New York and Washington, and had arrested several teams of Mossad agents. "
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> That one, I am certainly interested in hearing whether it's true or not. I
> don't speak Arabic, so can't say. Fits the MO for the PA though.
A good bedtime story at best...
> But I agree with the *conclusion* drawn in that one... the PA and Arafat are
> part of the problem, not the solution. The Palestinians will never be free
> under the brutal yoke of the PA.
Nor the brutal yoke of Israel, supported by America. That's a historical
fact as well.
Dan
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| (...) thinking about how events would unfold. Had these events unfolded as promised, the PA would recognise the right of Israel to exist, correct? Yet you still apparently do not, correct? I went to what I think is the official PA site www.pna.net (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You are going to have to do a little better than that at debunking... Is this quote "hogwash"? "Of course, "the right of Israel to exist" has never been accepted by its enemies, especially Yasser Arafat. " (I note you haven't answered whether (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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